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Here is a set of dyed black, ripstop fatigues. I bought this set of eBay some time ago, as an addition to the SOG uniform I'm putting together. I know that Ed Wolcoff and Frank Greco wore dyed black fatigues at one point or another and I thought these would be good for impression somewhere down the line. Now, having looked much closer at them, I'd like to hear the opinions of fellow forum members who are more experienced in Vietnam militaria, than I.

 

The jacket and trousers are both original and have a DSA - 68 contract date. They both retain their labels inside (I know SOG troopers wore sterile uniforms) the jacket is a medium-reg and the trousers are small-reg. They both show heavy wear in particular areas; knees (especially) elbows, back and sleeves. On the jacket. there are numerous white paint stains and what looks like a cigarette burn. All buttons are present and the thread has been dyed black, where as the labels have gone a blue/purple colour as shown.

 

I'll let the pictures do the talking for themselves, but having examined these closer the last few days, I'm beginning to think that they are actually combat worn items...Maybe not SOG, but another SOF unit? I haven't collected Vietnam era militaria for as long as I've collected WWII and I know it doesn't count for much, but these 'feel' good. I've handled enough original militaria to know the feel and smell of an item, and these have definitely got it. The wear is fairly consistant overall and they stink to high heaven of dirt and muck. The seller on eBay claimed that these came from a guy who was in Special Forces, but stupid me didn't ask who and when he served. We're always saying buy the item and not the story and that's what I did. But I may trawl through my feedback and see if I can contact the seller.

 

Don't hold back on these guys, if they're no good it's no worries, but I'd like to hear you opinions

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Jacket chest pockets (the jacket looks cleaner in the photos...)

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Rear pockets of jacket, showing paint stain an cigarette burn:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Details of paint stains and wear:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Detail of label in the neck of jacket:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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More details of jacket pockets:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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The rear of the jacket, the shoulder areas show substantial wear and take on a green-ish/brown hue:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Detail of label on inside of jacket:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Details of jacket buttons:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Detail of wear on trouser legs. The spots on the right hand photo are rain spots, they are not actual on the trousers. Both legs show a brown/red dirt on the knees

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Trousers:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Details of trouser cargo pocket:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Left hand pocket of trousers, the stitching has come un-done at the seam:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Rear of trousers, straps have been cut short:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Rear if trousers:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Detail of label in trousers:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Both leg ties are present:

 

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WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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A comparison of the jacket and trousers. The jacket holds a slightly stronger colour, but in hand there isn't much difference:

 

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That's it for now guys!

 

Enjoy.


WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Delta operators initially wore black fatigues when the unit was activated. I can't remember if they were dyed or as issued though.


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I have a pair of the dyed jungle pants that came from a Nam era Recon Marine. They are TRASHED though. Numerous repairs and holes. I really like youe dyed set. :thumbsup:


Always looking for US and foreign militaria from the Central American wars circa 1970-1990

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I have a pair of the dyed jungle pants that came from a Nam era Recon Marine. They are TRASHED though. Numerous repairs and holes. I really like youe dyed set. :thumbsup:

 

Thanks Arch, I was hoping you'd contribute. The set has definitely got that 'been there' look and feel to them, and they smell very musty. I wish I could find out a bit more about where they came from!

 

Are the pants in your collection, similar to those above?


WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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Delta operators initially wore black fatigues when the unit was activated. I can't remember if they were dyed or as issued though.

 

I've heard that Marc, so would that have been in the late 70s? :think:


WWII USMC & USN - CAMOUFLAGE / CORPSMAN / PARAMARINE / MARINE RAIDER / DENIM / DECK JACKETS.

 

VIETNAM - CAMOUFLAGE / SF / 'IN-COUNTRY' ITEMS.

 

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For what it's worth, years ago I found a set of black-dyed jungle fatigue trousers in a thrift store. They look very much like yours, and also have the labels intact.

 

Bill


Looking for older Virginia Military Institute items: insignia, uniforms, cadet sabers, documents, and groupings belonging to VMI alumni.

Also interested in Virginia Reserve Militia (VRM) uniforms and insignia, or other items of general Virginia interest.

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