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Alright I'll check. I am supposed to get the whole story of the guy, but unfortunetly the man who gave it to me is busy with other stuff (president of a company) so I'll just have to wait.

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Alright I'll check. I am supposed to get the whole story of the guy, but unfortunetly the man who gave it to me is busy with other stuff (president of a company) so I'll just have to wait.

 

Maybe we can help you..

 

Did you found an ASN or a name?

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Maybe we can help you..

 

Did you found an ASN or a name?

 

Mansal,

 

Thats a wonderful 325th GIR Ike Jacket! If theres a name or ASN in th ejacket I may be able to help you. I collect 325th GIR and have some Company rosters. If you ever want to sell I would be first in line to buy it from you!

 

Matt

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Hello again, here is another of my favourite uniforms. It is a jacket and shirt both belonging to Victor. V. Luna, D Co. 2nd Btn. 506th Paracute Inf. Reg. The jacket and shirt both have white tounge 101st Airborne patches on the left shoulder and 1st Allied Airborne on the right shoulder. Of interest is the fact that his middle initial was the letter ' V ' and he has ground his jacket jump wings with the shape of a V. ( Lewis )

Hi General,

I have inspected these two items in person and my only word is FANTASTIC!!! I have never seen a named early shirt and jacket that both have white tongue patches.

 

I remember at the time emailing Allan Henderson and asking him what was the reason behind the jump wings being "shaved" and for the life of me I can't remember what he gave as to the reason.

 

Cheers

 

Allan

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QUOTE(Allan B @ Jan 24 2007, 10:26 PM)
Hi General,
I have inspected these two items in person and my only word is FANTASTIC!!! I have never seen a named early shirt and jacket that both have white tongue patches.

I remember at the time emailing Allan Henderson and asking him what was the reason behind the jump wings being "shaved" and for the life of me I can't remember what he gave as to the reason.

Cheers

Allan


What is interesting with the Luna set is the white tongue eagle patches. These are only the second 506th set I have seen with "white tongues". I have seen 200X more "type 8's" than white tongues on ID'd 506th stuff.
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Allan

What is interesting with the Luna set is the white tongue eagle patches. These are only the second 506th set I have seen with "white tongues". I have seen 200X more "type 8's" than white tongues on ID'd 506th stuff.

 

Jake makes a great point here and one that I would have to echo. I don't think I have ever encountered a white tongue 101st patch in the hands of a 506th veteran.

If you want to find white tongue 101st patches among vets, you'll invariably find them among 327th GIR and 502nd PIR troopers. I have often asserted that the white tongue patches were the earliest of the 101st patches issued out. The original 101st patch had the OD border and no airborne tab- from the time prior to the 101st being an airborne division. The next patches to come out were other white tongues. When researching the history of the patch at the Institute of Heraldry, it looked to me like the original drawing for the 101st patch was made without reference to a red tongue. As the patch manufacturers folled the drawings, the corresponding patches also exhibited the white tongue. At some point, somebody managing hearldry must have decided that the tongue should be red. So, As Mark Bando has done a fantastic job of classifying these patches based on respective rarity (Type 1 is the most common and type 9 being the least common) and then putting numbers to later types of patches and more recent finds until he is up hovering near 20, the system does not lend itself to identifying the types of eagle patches from a timeline of when they would have been first encountered. That OD bordered 101st is classified by Bando as a type 9, but would be the oldest. Follow that up by the type 6 and type 5 eagles.

As the 506th and 501st were later additions to the division, withthe 501st being "attached" rather than assigned for the majority of the war, you can see that the earlier patches would have been issued well before the later examples came out.

My two cents,

Allan

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Hello APO472, Thanks for your boost on the ' Luna' 506th uniform, it is a nice set and with all the insignia on the jacket and the wings on the shirt. I was pleased with your comment about how many other pieces you have looked at, and this is only the second white tongue set you have seen. I wish I could learn more about Mr luna, where he was born, how long he served, when he died etc. For now though thanks again. Cheers ( Lewis )

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Allan H quote, Jake makes a great point here and one that I would have to echo. I don't think I have ever encountered a white tongue 101st patch in the hands of a 506th veteran.

 

 

Hello Allan H, thanks also to you for your booster on this ' Luna' 506th white tongue set. Thats an interesting background you have laid out about the sleeve insignia, and worthwhile reading it. I am pleased that it has raised some interest amongst the forum and the airborne specialists. Cheers ( Lewis )

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Hi Allan

 

I know that I shouldn't have forgotten, but could you please explain about "Shaved Wings" again?

 

Cheers

 

Allan

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WWII Army M-1943 Field Jacket 82nd. Airborne

Stanley Perkins of the 82nd. 508th. Parachute Infantry. Staff Sgt. "Invasion Flag" worn by paratroopers during the Normandy Invasion.

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Another one

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The rest of the one uniform

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Close up of the oversea's cap

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Heres another Ike from the 2nd war, more thrift store wonders.Picture_083.jpg

In the 80s and early 90s you could find stuff all over the place for next to nothing. most people were looking for German stuff, but I always liked the American stuff.

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On my roster the only corporal by the name of Summers I see is Cpl. Allan W. Summers ASN 39184903 from Washington state, here is the link to him on NARA

 

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I tried to find a match for cross reference for the H2943 but could not find it on my roster - perhaps Jake has a more detailed roster that this number is on.

 

Nice Ike by the way !

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Here is another one I really like, it is a flying fish AAF patch from England.Picture_097.jpg

 

In all my years of collectinging uniforms, only have found two of these.

 

 

Louie,

 

Is that a patch for the "Goldfish Club" I may not have the terminology right, but that resembles a patch that was give (unofficial) for making a parachute jump into water. Somthing like the "order of the winged boot" or the "catipillar club"

 

If so, I was not aware that it was a uniform sanctioned item

 

Bill

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This is one of my favorite IKE Jackets with bullion patches.

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This was a friend of the family. He was Combat Engineer. D-Day 1...Notice the Engineer buttons. Also have his Ike Jacket.

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Here is another one I really like, it is a flying fish AAF patch from England.Picture_097.jpg

 

In all my years of collectinging uniforms, only have found two of these.

 

I've only seen a few uniforms with a Goldfish Club patch before. Looks like a nice one.

 

Kurt

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Here is an original Goldfish Club card to a Naval Aviator. This one is # 881 . There were not many members!

 

Kurt

 

 

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Louie,

 

Nice Ike jacket. I have 4 "Summers" who served in the 506th. Allan W (F/506th...as Bob indicated) Lloyd R (C/506th...Seriously Wounded in Action in Normandy) Robert C (HQ3 & Service Co.) and Oscar (A/506th). My question is this...is there any chance that your "H-2943" is actually "H-2946"? Clarity on this may help ID your jacket.

 

Thanks,

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The stamping on the H laundry number is real clear in the front, but the last two numbers didnt get enough ink to really be sure. Could be either. I picked the jacket up in a Goodwill shop in Los Angeles over ten yrs. ago. Most of my collection came out of thrift stores. I used to have the ladies save me all the military uniforms. But this way you never know unless the guy wrote his name in it whose uniform it was.

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The stamping on the H laundry number is real clear in the front, but the last two numbers didnt get enough ink to really be sure. Could be either. I picked the jacket up in a Goodwill shop in Los Angeles over ten yrs. ago. Most of my collection came out of thrift stores. I used to have the ladies save me all the military uniforms. But this way you never know unless the guy wrote his name in it whose uniform it was.

 

Without seeing the stamp first hand here is what I have narrowed down...this uniform probably belonged Clinton M. Harvey (H-2946) A/506th at one point and to Oscar Summers (A/506th) as well based on the name "Summers" and ASN as provided initially and with supporting comments. More detailed information is available on both 'Troopers.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Jake Powers

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