CNY Militaria Posted October 13, 2007 Share #101 Posted October 13, 2007 question being, why isn't this in a museum There are a lot of things that should be in museums, that aren't. Just look at the collections on this forum, many are museum-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDan1900 Posted October 13, 2007 Share #102 Posted October 13, 2007 Truth is, as I understand it, that quite a few of Smedley Butler's personal items were peddled off by the family over the years, some as momentos to close personal friends of the family, or of Gen. Butler himself. This was long before the bulk of what was left was donated to the Marine Corp Museum, likely as far back as the 40s, 50s and 60s. I recall seeing his overseas cap sold on ebay a few years back, as well as the fact that one of our members, 4StarChris has his dress whites and visor cap in his impressive GO collection. His dress blues are also floating around somewhere in collector hands. There is a thread on the forum regarding this uniform and gives details of one collector encountering both uniforms for sale simultaneously at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted October 13, 2007 Share #103 Posted October 13, 2007 question being, why isn't this in a museum I have a set of dogtags to Col. Henry Mucci of the 6th Army Rangers who lead the mission to liberate the POW's at Cabanatuan from the Japanese ( The Great Raid ) . One wonders how I got his dogtags too . ( and yes they are real ) . Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted October 13, 2007 Share #104 Posted October 13, 2007 4StarChris has a museum, though granted, I'd love to believe it, and love to have it in my collection, but am not willing to spend that kind of cash, and it will shoot up, without proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted October 13, 2007 Share #105 Posted October 13, 2007 how can you tell by the numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDan1900 Posted October 13, 2007 Share #106 Posted October 13, 2007 Yes, It all comes down to the fact that nothing is ironclad without the documentation or proper background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted October 14, 2007 Share #107 Posted October 14, 2007 Has anyone actually asked the seller for proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathfinder505 Posted October 14, 2007 Share #108 Posted October 14, 2007 Truth is, as I understand it, that quite a few of Smedley Butler's personal items were peddled off by the family over the years, some as momentos to close personal friends of the family, or of Gen. Butler himself. This was long before the bulk of what was left was donated to the Marine Corp Museum, likely as far back as the 40s, 50s and 60s. I recall seeing his overseas cap sold on ebay a few years back, as well as the fact that one of our members, 4StarChris has his dress whites and visor cap in his impressive GO collection. His dress blues are also floating around somewhere in collector hands. There is a thread on the forum regarding this uniform and gives details of one collector encountering both uniforms for sale simultaneously at one point. I know a guy who has the forest green uniform that belonged to Butler. He got it from the son. Seems the son was selling off a lot of his stuff. I was surprised to see some was donated to the Marine Corps Museum due to Butlers love for the Corps in his later years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCR79 Posted October 14, 2007 Share #109 Posted October 14, 2007 how can you tell by the numbers? By comparing it with my fathers' # (April 1951, 1186670) Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted October 18, 2007 Share #110 Posted October 18, 2007 It sold the other day for $1500 smackers! And, if George Harris sold it, you can take it to the bank as REAL!!!!!! Semper Fi.....Bobgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted October 18, 2007 Share #111 Posted October 18, 2007 It sold the other day for $1500 smackers! And, if George Harris sold it, you can take it to the bank as REAL!!!!!! Semper Fi.....Bobgee Concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonomachi Posted November 12, 2007 Share #112 Posted November 12, 2007 I bought this yesterday for $10.00 at the flea market. I'm assuming it is WWI era? My first WW1 dog tag. It looks like it says, " J. THOMAS RODDA 823318". Does anyone have any information on this individual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Magut Posted November 12, 2007 Share #113 Posted November 12, 2007 From his Draft Registration Form: Name: J Thomas Rodda City: Not Stated County: St Louis State: Minnesota Birthplace: Minnesota;United States of America Birth Date: 27 Sep 1888 Race: Caucasian (White) Draft card says he was a Locomotive fireman for a Mining company, and had two years in the Nat. Guard with 3rd Minn. Inf. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonomachi Posted November 12, 2007 Share #114 Posted November 12, 2007 From his Draft Registration Form: Name: J Thomas Rodda City: Not Stated County: St Louis State: Minnesota Birthplace: Minnesota;United States of America Birth Date: 27 Sep 1888 Race: Caucasian (White) Draft card says he was a Locomotive fireman for a Mining company, and had two years in the Nat. Guard with 3rd Minn. Inf. Hope this helps. Thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukpike Posted January 16, 2008 Share #115 Posted January 16, 2008 Grandfathers WWI Dog Tags: He was in the 7TH Division 55TH Headquarters Co. 2ND Battalion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HB in NC Posted January 21, 2008 Share #116 Posted January 21, 2008 I found some dog tags years ago and just recently came across them > again! Is there some way I can send you folks some photos of them and > help find the owner or decendents of the owner? Im not look for any > reward just tryin to do the right thing! Mitch Wolfe ! > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww2vault Posted January 21, 2008 Share #117 Posted January 21, 2008 Hi and welcome to USMF! Where abouts in NC are you located? I use to live in Western NC, near Asheville. As far as the dog tags, here is all I could find on them. I'm not to sure how you go about contacting a descendant of a veteran, maybe another member here would know. For the top pair of dog tags it says Mr. Sparks is deceased, so you will have to find a relative. ASN: 34594708 Name: Avery V. Sparks SSN: 242-68-2023 Born: June 9, 1905 Death: November 1960 Residence: Yadkin County, North Carolina Place of Enlistment: Camp Croft, South Carolina Enlistment Date: December 11, 1942 Service Branch: Warrant Officer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The next dog tag, (bottom left) is in the same situation as above. The veteran is deceased. ASN: 12167113 Name: Roy P. Smith SSN: 054-30-4228 Born: April 28, 1903 Death: October 28, 1982 Residence: Cortland, New York 13045 Civilian Occupation: Fireman Place of Enlistment: Syracuse, New York Enlistment Date: September 21, 1942 Service Branch: Army Air Corps Burial: Golden Gate National Cemetery; San Bruno, California ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The last dog tag of Mr. Shell, I am pretty sure he may still be alive. ASN: 33529857 Name: Charlie Shell Born: 1923 Civilian Occupation: Unskilled occupations in manufacture of textiles. Place of Enlistment: Roanoke, Virginia Enlistment Date: January 6, 1943 Service Branch: Warrant Officer Good luck. - Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HB in NC Posted January 21, 2008 Share #118 Posted January 21, 2008 Hi and welcome to USMF! Where abouts in NC are you located? I use to live in Western NC, near Asheville. As far as the dog tags, here is all I could find on them. I'm not to sure how you go about contacting a descendant of a veteran, maybe another member here would know. For the top pair of dog tags it says Mr. Sparks is deceased, so you will have to find a relative. ASN: 34594708 Name: Avery V. Sparks SSN: 242-68-2023 Born: June 9, 1905 Death: November 1960 Residence: Yadkin County, North Carolina Place of Enlistment: Camp Croft, South Carolina Enlistment Date: December 11, 1942 Service Branch: Warrant Officer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The next dog tag, (bottom left) is in the same situation as above. The veteran is deceased. ASN: 12167113 Name: Roy P. Smith SSN: 054-30-4228 Born: April 28, 1903 Death: October 28, 1982 Residence: Cortland, New York 13045 Civilian Occupation: Fireman Place of Enlistment: Syracuse, New York Enlistment Date: September 21, 1942 Service Branch: Army Air Corps Burial: Golden Gate National Cemetery; San Bruno, California ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The last dog tag of Mr. Shell, I am pretty sure he may still be alive. ASN: 33529857 Name: Charlie Shell Born: 1923 Civilian Occupation: Unskilled occupations in manufacture of textiles. Place of Enlistment: Roanoke, Virginia Enlistment Date: January 6, 1943 Service Branch: Warrant Officer Good luck. - Jeff Thanks Jeff, I'm in Fayetteville near Methodist College! I mostly relic hunt old house sites and camps! I guess my next step might be to do a people search and start calling folks but that will be tough competing with all those telemarketers lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted January 21, 2008 Share #119 Posted January 21, 2008 You can always send a letter to the address with a note explaining the situation. Enclose a stamped, self addressed envelope for their reply (it seems to make it easier to get a response) and see what happens. Of the 5-6 times I tried this, once I got a letter back from the wife of the man, and once from a neighbor telling me a new address to try. Twice, I got my original letter back with a "not at this address" stamp. So, its about 20-30% success rate. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
753rd Posted January 21, 2008 Share #120 Posted January 21, 2008 there was a female on this site that worked at the Tank Museum in Danville,Va. she might be able to check the phone book or something for the last dog tag for Charlie Shell . Also he might have worked a Dan River Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HB in NC Posted January 22, 2008 Share #121 Posted January 22, 2008 Thanks that should be enough to get me started! Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted January 22, 2008 Share #122 Posted January 22, 2008 there was a female on this site that worked at the Tank Museum in Danville,Va. she might be able to check the phone book or something for the last dog tag for Charlie Shell . Also he might have worked a Dan River Mills. Girltankette I think she is called here? Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
753rd Posted January 22, 2008 Share #123 Posted January 22, 2008 Jeeper, I think you are right!!!!!!!!! I grew up in that neck of the woods , but I now live in pa. Wish I could help more & get that Dog Tag back to it's owner!!!!!!!! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAWARMEMORIAL Posted January 22, 2008 Share #124 Posted January 22, 2008 Charlie Shell is not listed in Virginia from either WWII or Korea as KIA so there is a chance that he is still alive. We have a list of all of Virginia's KIA and MIA's for WWII, Korea, Vietnam, The First Gulf war and the War on Terror, so if you need a name researched just shoot me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share #125 Posted January 25, 2008 Reference: Audie Murphy dog tags: The dog tags worn by Audie Murphy during combat in Europe. The information on the dog tags includes his name (Audie L. Murphy), an identification number (18083707), his next of kin (Corrine Burns, a married sister), and his home-of-record (Farmersville, Texas). Historical note: According to one source (Audie Murphy / American Cotton Museum curator), Audie Murphy may have actually had two different identification numbers. When Audie Murphy was given a battlefield commission in 1945, he was first honorably discharged as an enlisted soldier. Minutes later, he was sworn in as a commissioned officer of the United States Army by his battalion commander. Because of this, he was likely issued a new service number to reflect this "separate" term of service. From: www.audiemurphy.com/smithsonian.htm Best regards, Ricardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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