Gregory Posted July 25, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 25, 2007 Hello, I am looking for two small data related to the Pay Readjustment Act of June 1st, 1942. I do have The Officer's Guide, 9th Edition, but it does not contain the info am looking for. Also the Bluejackets Manual of 1942 I know tells nothing about it. What I need are monthly salaries of the USN's Senior Chief Petty Officer and Master Chief Petty Officer and/or (because most likely they will be the same salaries) US Army's Warrant Officer Junior Grade and Chief Warrant Officer. I need this info very much and asap that is why I would be very thankful for your possible help. Best regards Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted July 25, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 25, 2007 Hopefully this is the info you need. If not there is a total of 18 pages in the Pay and Allowance chapter. Tell me what you need and I will take more pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GIl Sanow Posted July 25, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 25, 2007 If my memory serves correctly, the Master Chief and Senior Chief rates did not exist until after WW2. I do not see either listed on Craig's lists. Certainly there was no exact parallel between a CPO, the senior Navy grade, and an Army WO or CWO. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted July 26, 2007 Friends, Thank you very much. The forumer may count on you, as always. I am very grateful for your time and help. Gil is right -- I do not remember now, and I can not find, what was my source when it comes to the USN's ranks SCPO and MCPO during WWII. What I found now is an information that both these ranks were created effective June 1, 1958. What I still need are WWII period monthly salaries of the US Army's Warrant Officer Junior Grade and Chief Warrant Officer. I hope that this time I am not mistaken and both of them were accepted by the Congress in August 1941. My "Officer's Guide" of 1942 does not mention them however. Maybe other documents give some data as to WWII period salaries of those two ranks? I will be very thankful for help! Best regards Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 26, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 26, 2007 Hopefully this is the info you need. If not there is a total of 18 pages in the Pay and Allowance chapter. Tell me what you need and I will take more pics. Thanks for posting those pages from the Naval Officers Guide Craig: very interesting book. This past spring at a family gathering I gave a 1943 edition to a 2006 Annapolis graduate : he was really jazzed about that. The books don't sell for a lot but they are a great source of information about the old Navy and quite detailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted July 26, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 26, 2007 Bob, thanks for the kind words. That is a good reference book. You see the Army version mentioned frequently but the Navy version is seldom mentioned. Gregory, I will be out for a few hours but will take some pics from a later Army Officer Guide that should have the pay scale you need. Hopefully I will get it posted later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted July 27, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 27, 2007 Let me know if you need more info. Hopefully this covers what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gregory Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted July 27, 2007 Craig This is it! I am very, very thankful The last small request would be for better resolution of the table because I am not sure as to several basic $ values. Or confirm only that the following basic salaries are: Warrant Officer Junior Grade - $150.00 Flight Officer - $150.00 Chief Warrant Officer - $176.00 One more time thank you very much! Best Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted July 27, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 27, 2007 Let me know if you can read this one okay and if not I will bump it again. About one more bump will reach the limits so then I will need to split it into two parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share #14 Posted July 28, 2007 Craig This time it works. One more time my great THANK YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted July 28, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 28, 2007 Glad to help. Is that everything you needed? Are you doing a new article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted July 29, 2007 Are you doing a new article? Craig, bravo, you guess very good... Yes, I prepared long multi-part article on WWII era US naval aviation but only in the USA and only on educational aspects of the cadets training and flight instructors level of their own education. BTW one of the USMF forumer's father, who is ex-cadet of V-5, will be interviewed by me for this article as well. Generally speaking this is a text dedicated to the art of flying and being the pilot. I learnt as a pilot too long to tolerate these tons of quasi-aviation literature which is around us all the world over and where WWII era pilot is treated like a waiter who delivers only alphanumeric data from his log book on himself for the tables of air victories only and nothing more. When took-off, when landed, what intercepted, how many killed and how much the number of his air victories jumped up. I can not see at this literature. This is aerofarce, not aviation. It is like Greyhound Bus Line time table, no difference. Only dog fight, burst, next Japanese flag under the cockpit, dog fight, burst, Japanese flag etc. and where is the human and more than ten fields of pilot's education? This is incompetent soulless writing by the people who know nothing about flying and how many years it is necessary to fly to begin to be only mid-class pilot not to mention ace. For such authors exist only shooting and burning planes in the spins but this is not aviation. My new article is like tribute to Ernest K. Gann, a pilot and the author of the best aviation book in the world though he was not naval aviator of course. The only one aviation book worth to take on uninhabited island. The book without one bullet and one air combat but more fascinating than Alfred Hitchcock's stories. The book about real aviation and the art of flying, not about collecting air victories in the tables of the authors who fly by airliners and this is all they know about aviation. I mean Gann's "Fate Is The Hunter". I am writing in this text also about normal life of the pilots and all possible problems of that time – from inverted spins to survival, from navigational problems to gunnery training in various devices, from training in aerial photography to flying by imperfect aircraft with underdeveloped undercarriage, etc, etc. Because I am writing about normal life that is why the pilots' salaries are the part of it. I prepared big table with the salaries of the USN personnel, USAAF, Army Specialist Corps and for comparison I gave Polish armed forces monthly salaries of the 2nd Republic before nazi aggression against Poland. This is funny part of this article showing how much European and the US economical circumstances come from two different "economical planets" so to say. One more time thank you very much Craig for these two data for the salaries table. Best wishes Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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