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Third Army SSI worn by a member of the 320th Airborne Field Artillery. Although most of its lineage was with airborne divisions, from 1951 to 1957 the 320th Airborne Field Artillery Battalion was assigned to Fort Benning, Georgia. I assume that this photo dates from that period.

When first enlarged I thought the Oval was a plastic encased one but the more I look at it the more I think it is one of the stamped Aluminum ones. Maybe younger eyes can take a look and chime in.

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First up one Walter S. Wells post war late 40s, an Oklahoma National Guardsmen since 1940, An Infantrymen we see, but seems to be wearing MP discs, trendred to the MPs post WWII? Not sure if he served in the division in WWII or Korea, in many cases in both wars these guys were transferred out after federalization, during Korea he may not of served in Korea at all, maybe sent to say the 2nd Armored Division etc etc, He becomes an Officer sometime in the 50s and incredibly according to his 2013 OBIT retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in 1983!

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And Philip De Witt Ginder when he was a Brigadier General as Assistant Divisional Commander of the division in Korea, Ginder would be promoted soon to Major General at take command of the division.

 

Ginder is a very very interesting study, according to his Bio;s he was rated as militarily incompetent as C.O. of the 90th Infantry Division's 357h Infantry Regiment, one person called him "obtuse" and "full of boast and posturing" William De Puy says of him, he's"as close to being incompetent as it is possible to be." Ginder, he's relived of command under guard, whatever that means, YET, he apparently remains in the theater and is soon given command of another regiment!, you figure if he stunk up the place so badly he would of been shipped home right, given command of some ZI back water somewhere he SUXed so much, but no, he's given the command of the 121st Infantry Regiment, 8th Infantry Division.

 

During the Battle of the Huertgen Forest the 121st Inf was mauled, mauled like all the rest of the units that went into the Forest, Ginder personally leads one attack himself at one point, and for that he wins the DSC, more over he takes over the 9th Infantry Manchu of the 2nd Infantry Division in 1945 in like March or April, doesn't sound like he SUXed that bad right :lol:

 

Well to see this and more on hm google his Bio.

 

 

 

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Here's a soldier of the 8th Infantry Division wearing the DUI's of the 82rd Field Artillery. Nothing unusual about the 8th SSI, but what is fairly rare is that his only ribbon is for the Humanitarian Service Medal. The HSM is not necessarily super rare, but the lack of any other ribbons on this soldier's uniform dates this between 1974 (the cutoff date for the National Defense Service Medal) and 1981 (the initiation date for the Army Service Ribbon). His service information says he served from 1979 to 1995.

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WW! Big Red One. Reversed negative developement as the the ONE is backwards.

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Here's a soldier of the 1st Cavalry Division wearing jump wings on an oval and the Airborne insignia on his overseas cap. I can't make out his branch insignia, but I assume the shoulder cord and bib are Infantry blue. What's interesting is that the buildings and mountains in the background make me think this was taken in Korea which would be before the 1st Cav was reflagged at Fort Benning in 1965. If so, wouldn't the wearing of the oval with his wings indicate he was on jump status? What units of the 1st Cav were airborne during its time in Korea?

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This first sergeant appears to be wearing the DUI's of the 4th Infantry Regiment with his Seventh Army SSI and Infantry shoulder cord and discs. The 1st Battalion 4th Infantry has served as an OPFOR unit with the Seventh Army in Germany since 1990. The interesting thing is that the DUI's appear to be metal rather than cloth loops which is the only style I have ever seen for the 4th Infantry.

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WW! Big Red One. Reversed negative developement as the the ONE is backwards.

Nope. They were made backwards. Photo not reversed - his ribbon is on the correct (left) side.

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Here's a soldier of the 1st Cavalry Division wearing jump wings on an oval and the Airborne insignia on his overseas cap. I can't make out his branch insignia, but I assume the shoulder cord and bib are Infantry blue. What's interesting is that the buildings and mountains in the background make me think this was taken in Korea which would be before the 1st Cav was reflagged at Fort Benning in 1965. If so, wouldn't the wearing of the oval with his wings indicate he was on jump status? What units of the 1st Cav were airborne during its time in Korea?

And he's wearing a French or Belgian Rope too, No Cav Inf units have that. For the pre Vietnam Cav, the only guess would be the 1st Sq 9th Cav, but that's no good, because the 1/9 Cav in South Korea was not an Air Cavalry unit yet, it was still ground reconnaissance. Maybe another case of transferred GI wearing insignia from his old unit, in this case either the 82nd or 101? note too no NDSM ribbon, indicating a early 60s photo.

 

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This first sergeant appears to be wearing the DUI's of the 4th Infantry Regiment with his Seventh Army SSI and Infantry shoulder cord and discs. The 1st Battalion 4th Infantry has served as an OPFOR unit with the Seventh Army in Germany since 1990. The interesting thing is that the DUI's appear to be metal rather than cloth loops which is the only style I have ever seen for the 4th Infantry.

Believe the metal DI they wear now are a very recent trend, seen Black Berets and their flashes with this on.

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Here's a soldier of the 8th Infantry Division wearing the DUI's of the 82rd Field Artillery. Nothing unusual about the 8th SSI, but what is fairly rare is that his only ribbon is for the Humanitarian Service Medal. The HSM is not necessarily super rare, but the lack of any other ribbons on this soldier's uniform dates this between 1974 (the cutoff date for the National Defense Service Medal) and 1981 (the initiation date for the Army Service Ribbon). His service information says he served from 1979 to 1995.

May have guarded the Cuban Refugees from the Muriel Boat Lift

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This first sergeant appears to be wearing the DUI's of the 4th Infantry Regiment with his Seventh Army SSI and Infantry shoulder cord and discs. The 1st Battalion 4th Infantry has served as an OPFOR unit with the Seventh Army in Germany since 1990. The interesting thing is that the DUI's appear to be metal rather than cloth loops which is the only style I have ever seen for the 4th Infantry.

 

When I was with 1-4 we wore the cloth style. this was early 00's.

 

Later I was assigned to 2-4 when it was part of 4thBDE 10th Mountain Division, we only wore the metal ones.

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When I was with 1-4 we wore the cloth style. this was early 00's.

 

Later I was assigned to 2-4 when it was part of 4thBDE 10th Mountain Division, we only wore the metal ones.

Here's the 1/4 Inf's CSM with the cloth one on the beret in the OPFOR field uniform and other EMs at least, with these, Gold colored ranks are evidently worn

 

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Here's the 1/4 Inf's CSM with the cloth one on the beret in the OPFOR field uniform and other EMs at least, with these, Gold colored ranks are evidently worn

 

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And one at Ft Polk with the 2/4 Inf where the Metal version is used, strange though that the portrait of the Pre ASU GI in AG's of the 1/4 Inf is wearing the metal version right, figured it would be cloth.

 

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Nope. They were made backwards. Photo not reversed - his ribbon is on the correct (left) side.

 

Huh! You are so right! I was focused on the "backwards" and not the entire set up. Good catch and thanks for the correction!

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US - Op.'s Desert Shield / Storm / Provide Comfort /Some Southern Watch - F-4G's Wild Weasels
UK - Op.'s Granby / Sabre / Warden
Canadian - Op. Desert Storm / Op. Friction
French - Daguet / Aconit
Netherlands, Belgium, Poland, South Korea, etc.
Looking for the oddities, including unfinished & flaws
I HAVE EXTRA's!! Will trade as well.

 

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Here's a soldier of the 8th Infantry Division wearing the DUI's of the 82rd Field Artillery. Nothing unusual about the 8th SSI, but what is fairly rare is that his only ribbon is for the Humanitarian Service Medal. The HSM is not necessarily super rare, but the lack of any other ribbons on this soldier's uniform dates this between 1974 (the cutoff date for the National Defense Service Medal) and 1981 (the initiation date for the Army Service Ribbon). His service information says he served from 1979 to 1995.

Approved Humanitarian Service Medal Operations for that time frame.

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Here's the 1/4 Inf's CSM with the cloth one on the beret in the OPFOR field uniform and other EMs at least, with these, Gold colored ranks are evidently worn

 

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Correct, all enlisted wear the gold dress pin on rank on their beret over the flash.

 

1-4 has changed their uniforms. It was black BDU's with no flag, looks like they have changed to black ACU pattern uniforms with the flag.

 

Wish we had a date on the original picture posted.

 

 

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That Ordnance NCO and the 8 ID soldier are from no earlier than around 1981(?). Note their green shirts. And, the one guy has pin on bright chevron's on his shirt collar. That was how it was done before shoulder marks we're introduced.

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That Ordnance NCO and the 8 ID soldier are from no earlier than around 1981(?). Note their green shirts. And, the one guy has pin on bright chevron's on his shirt collar. That was how it was done before shoulder marks we're introduced.

+1 before the summer of 1981 when those two new ribbons came out, we were told to get them around July 81 up in Alaska.

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