US Army berets - blue, black, green, maroon, tan...

[MPage]

I see that was already addressed.

 

Anyway:

 

 

 

[seanmc1114]

 

The darker blue oval discussed in the link is different than the one on the guy in your photo; I'm certain that the one in the photo was for the Airborne Dept at Ft Benning. I guess they would wear the Training Centers DUI?

 

 

Soldiers assigned to the Airborne Department during the 60s wore the Infantry School DUI as well as the Infantry School SSI with a white on blue AIRBORNE tab and a blue oval, but I do agree they appear to be lighter than the one in the link I posted. So it's possible the light blue oval was worn by the Airborne Department cadre and the dark blue oval worn by unassigned jump qualified soldiers or at least those not assigned to a unit with its own distinct oval?

Cadre of basic training and AIT units at Fort Benning, as well as other training centers in the southeast U.S. (Fort Bragg, Fort Campbell, Fort Gordon, Fort McClellan), wore the Training Centers DUI along with Third Army SSI. Cadre of basic and AIT units at Fort Dix wore the First Army SSI with Training Centers DUI; Fourth Army was worn at Fort Polk; and Sixth Army was worn at Fort Ord. I may be missing some (Fifth Army at Fort Sam Houston?) but you get the point. I think the exception was Fort Knox where I believe the Armor triangle SSI with USATC tab was worn but I believe they still wore the Training Centers DUI with it.

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Soldiers assigned to the Airborne Department during the 60s wore the Infantry School DUI as well as the Infantry School SSI with a white on blue AIRBORNE tab and a blue oval, but I do agree they appear to be lighter than the one in the link I posted. So it's possible the light blue oval was worn by the Airborne Department cadre and the dark blue oval worn by unassigned jump qualified soldiers or at least those not assigned to a unit with its own distinct oval?

Cadre of basic training and AIT units at Fort Benning, as well as other training centers in the southeast U.S. (Fort Bragg, Fort Campbell, Fort Gordon, Fort McClellan), wore the Training Centers DUI along with Third Army SSI. Cadre of basic and AIT units at Fort Dix wore the First Army SSI with Training Centers DUI; Fourth Army was worn at Fort Polk; and Sixth Army was worn at Fort Ord. I may be missing some (Fifth Army at Fort Sam Houston?) but you get the point. I think the exception was Fort Knox where I believe the Armor triangle SSI with USATC tab was worn but I believe they still wore the Training Centers DUI with it.

 

Fort Leonard Wood 5th Army. Fort Sam Houston did not run a BCT, Bliss did, (though Sill in those days did not) here their DS's and Cadre wore that Air Defense School patch, even though there wasn't an Air Defense Branch in them days, this just adds more to the confusion in regards to the artillery branch in them days right .

 

The Leonard Wood one, 1968 I think.

 

And the Bliss one, from 1968 I got a Bliss yearbook for BCT, and here we see this patch being worn by the DS's and all.

 

Lewis Inf AIT, so 6th Army for them as well. Lewis I found also ran a BCT in the period, so their DS's along with Cadre, 6th Army patch.

 

Here's one of Lewis' BCT classes, as opposed to one of their Inf AIT classes, you'll see the difference with the guidons.

 

[doyler]

Found this one today.

 

The DI is missing but the out line is there.

 

 

 

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Found this one today.

 

The DI is missing but the out line is there.

 

 

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307th Engineer Bn 82nd right?

[doyler]

307th Engineer Bn 82nd right?

 

Thanks Kev

 

I wasn't sure

 

Reddish orange but it could be faded??

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Thanks Kev

 

I wasn't sure

 

Reddish orange but it could be faded??

https://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=78285

[MPage]

This is pretty obscure; it's members of the 24th Inf Div LRRP unit in Germany circa 1960-61:

 

[seanmc1114]

 

The darker blue oval discussed in the link is different than the one on the guy in your photo; I'm certain that the one in the photo was for the Airborne Dept at Ft Benning. I guess they would wear the Training Centers DUI?

 

Here's another soldier with a similar get up. This is PFC James Ronald Speller who was killed in Vietnam on November 19, 1967 at Dak To while serving with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, so this photo would have been taken stateside prior to his Vietnam tour beginning in August 1967. http://www.vvmf.org/Wall-of-Faces/49101/JAMES-R-SPELLER?page=3

 

I feel fairly certain he was not assigned to the Airborne Department because he is wearing a Presidential Unit Citation and French Fourragere, meaning he was then assigned to a line unit with lineage and awards from World War II in Europe. Probably the 82nd or 101st Airborne Division. The Airborne Department didn't get the lineage of the 507th Infantry Regiment until the mid-80s.

 

There's a different picture of the same guy in Post # 1731599.

[seanmc1114]

Soldier of the 3rd Battalion 22nd Infantry wearing a full size, probably theater made, 25th Infantry Division SSI on a black beret. The interesting thing about the photo, as best I can tell, is that it would have been taken long after the soldier was medevaced from Vietnam in November 1967 and after having been transferred to South Korea following his medical recuperation. So at this point he would not have been assigned to the 25th.

 

http://toddshistory.com/?p=646

 

 

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Soldier of the 3rd Battalion 22nd Infantry wearing a full size, probably theater made, 25th Infantry Division SSI on a black beret. The interesting thing about the photo, as best I can tell, is that it would have been taken long after the soldier was medevaced from Vietnam in November 1967 and after having been transferred to South Korea following his medical recuperation. So at this point he would not have been assigned to the 25th.

 

http://toddshistory.com/?p=646

 

 

He also has the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, that would be for the DMZ Conflict.

 

 

Korea 1 October 1966-30 June 1974

[seanmc1114]

He also has the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, that would be for the DMZ Conflict.

 

 

Korea 1 October 1966-30 June 1974

Yeah, if you read the guy's story in the link I posted, it says he was wounded in Vietnam on November 1, 1967 while serving with the 25th Infantry Division in Vietnam. After being medevaced to Japan for recuperation, he was ordered back to Vietnam but his doctor intervened and instead he was sent to Korea to finish his tour. Thus, he would have been entitled to the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal which means the picture was taken during or after his time in Korea but he's still wearing the 25th ID patch on his pocket and beret.

[Kurt_E]

Some from my collection. Not so special, but anyway;

 

1) Maroon beret of 1st Bn, 325th Airborne Inf. Reg.

2) Maroon beret of HHC, 16th MP Bde.

3) Black beret of 511th MP Co, 91st MP Bn.

4) Black beret of V Corps.

 

[seanmc1114]

Another example of the red or maroon beret worn along with the Medical Corps bib and shoulder cord by a medic probably at Fort Sam Houston.

 

[seanmc1114]

Black beret with unknown insignia worn by a member of the 194th Armored Brigade. The soldier served in the unit between 1976 and 1979.

[atb]

It looks like the 194th Armor Brigade DUI.

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It looks like the 194th Armor Brigade DUI.

Looks like it, the NCBU of the brigade, probably on a solid yellow flash .

 

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A great find here with a 12th Infantry Mini PP (probably South Vietnamese made) worn on a Black Beret by one S/Sgt Dale W. Knudson, A Co 4th Battalion 12th Infantry,, 199th Infantry Brigade (Sep) circa 1968, and another with one with another member in the background with it on. Unit as we see is not an "Elite" one, they're in a rifle company, so perhaps a unit esprit thing rather then your more familiar LRRP or Battalion RECON Plt thing. Of note is Knudsen's Mustashio .

 

 

 

 

 

[seanmc1114]

An infantry squad from the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry of the 1st Cavalry Division in Vietnam in 1971 or 1972. They are wearing 7th Cav DUI's on their black berets and the guy on the right appears to be wearing an AIRBORNE tab over his. Also note how much M-60 ammo they are carrying and that all of the M-16's appear to have 30 round magazines.

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One more 70s 11th Cav Black Beret, hard to tell, maybe a CSM, which means a CSM of one of the 11th ACR's Squadrons or the CSM of the Regiment, or a First Sergeant of one of the many Troops therein.

 

[seanmc1114]

One more 70s 11th Cav Black Beret, hard to tell, maybe a CSM, which means a CSM of one of the 11th ACR's Squadrons or the CSM of the Regiment, or a First Sergeant of one of the many Troops therein.

 

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I would bet Command Sergeant Major. It looks like his top ribbon is for the Army Distinguished Service Medal which is rare even for a CSM, much less a First Sergeant. On the other hand, it could be the Soldier's Medal.

[seanmc1114]

Colonel John William Hudachek, commanding officer of the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, in the early to mid-70s. Also note he is wearing Cavalry branch insignia instead of Armor.

[seanmc1114]

Major General Frederick J. Kroesen, commander of the 82nd Airborne Division from July 1972 to October 1974, wearing a maroon beret

[doyler]

​USAF....nice early erdl polin shirt too

 

 

A1C Roger Klenovich, with the 37th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron (Vietnam), poses aboard a HH-3E as he and his aircrew return from a rescue mission, circa 1967

 

 

[patches]

 

Sergeant Major John Diffin and General Matt Ridgeway during the commemoration of the 30th Anniversary of D-Day, held in Sainte Mere Eglise, France, June 1974. John attended as a representative of the 82nd Airborne Division. Diffin was found during my reasearch into 3rd Award CIB's, seems that while he was in WWII (505th PIR), and Korea (187th RCT), and Vietnam (101st Abn Div), he curiously has only Two Awards of the CIB. He's wearing his 101 Combat Patch, but can not find sub unit, even if he was at Brigade level or even Division, these guys tended to be awarded a CIB, possible then he may have been in the 101's DISCOM or assigned as a CSM/SGM to one of the 101's support units.