patches Posted May 23, 2017 Share #326 Posted May 23, 2017 Unknown berets worn by members of the 2nd Infantry Division in Korea - date unknown And when you enlarge it the flashes are either upside down, tombstone like, and are Yellow. Best Guess, berets worn in the 70s perhaps for either the 4th Squadron 7th cavalry or one of the battalions of the division's 72nd Armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPage Posted May 23, 2017 Share #327 Posted May 23, 2017 And when you enlarge it the flashes are either upside down, tombstone like, and are Yellow. Best Guess, berets worn in the 70s perhaps for either the 4th Squadron 7th cavalry or one of the battalions of the division's 72nd Armor. I'm thinking that they're wearing ROK SF berets, wearing allies' headgear for a photo as is sometimes done. http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/191921852177_1_0_1.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_glRXfARnmAs/R8eA7BsOgTI/AAAAAAAAABs/_NqVzD5erO0/s400/SNV80830.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted May 23, 2017 Share #328 Posted May 23, 2017 I'm thinking that they're wearing ROK SF berets, wearing allies' headgear for a photo as is sometimes done. http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/191921852177_1_0_1.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_glRXfARnmAs/R8eA7BsOgTI/AAAAAAAAABs/_NqVzD5erO0/s400/SNV80830.JPG Yeah That's Got to be it MP, good going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny C Posted May 24, 2017 Share #329 Posted May 24, 2017 Hey everybody, here is a scan of my 2/502 beret. It is worn out. What time period do you think? Steve These berets were worn in the 70's prior to the beret ban... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny C Posted May 24, 2017 Share #330 Posted May 24, 2017 Hey everybody, here is a scan of my 2/502 beret. It is worn out. What time period do you think? Steve These berets were worn in the 70's prior to the beret ban... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny C Posted June 2, 2017 Share #331 Posted June 2, 2017 Special Operations Command, Pacific is the beret flash. This flash is not exactly the same as the examples depicted in the reference book I have, which both have a black border dividing the colors, in a 'T' shape. Could be a very early style, when the unit was stood up in 1983, or perhaps from before then, from the unit's earlier incarnation? There's very little info about the history of that command. I'm guessing the guy was a Ranger(?). s-l1600.jpg I believe that this is a beret from the TX state Guard, unfortunately.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted June 7, 2017 Share #332 Posted June 7, 2017 Black beret worn by a private assigned to the Armor Center around 1976/1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 7, 2017 Share #333 Posted June 7, 2017 Black beret worn by a private assigned to the Armor Center around 1976/1977. I wonder why no flash? Could he have a Armor AIT Trainee Grad? Did Armor AIT Trainees wear that Tab? One would think only Unit Commanders, Drill Sergeants and other Cadre would be the only ones wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPage Posted June 8, 2017 Share #334 Posted June 8, 2017 It looks like he's wearing Armor Center DUIs; if so, would that indicate headquarters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted June 8, 2017 Share #335 Posted June 8, 2017 Black beret worn by a private assigned to the Armor Center around 1976/1977. Thats a young looking PFC. Wonder if he had permission to use a razor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 8, 2017 Share #336 Posted June 8, 2017 It looks like he's wearing Armor Center DUIs; if so, would that indicate headquarters? Right, seeing that now. It looks like a Patch Type Crest right. But then there's the rub, I thought this is the DI for the Armor Center. http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Catalog/Heraldry.aspx?HeraldryId=11663&CategoryId=6998&grp=2&menu=Uniformed%20Services&ps=24&p=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPage Posted June 8, 2017 Share #337 Posted June 8, 2017 Right, seeing that now. It looks like a Patch Type Crest right. But then there's the rub, I thought this is the DI for the Armor Center. Handler.ashx.jpg http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Catalog/Heraldry.aspx?HeraldryId=11663&CategoryId=6998&grp=2&menu=Uniformed%20Services&ps=24&p=0 That's what I thought; then I saw this: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/702491241845145811/ but I guess it's just an ordinary decorative pin, i.e., not a DUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 8, 2017 Share #338 Posted June 8, 2017 That's what I thought; then I saw this: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/702491241845145811/ but I guess it's just an ordinary decorative pin, i.e., not a DUI. And here's the pin from the above link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmoen Posted June 10, 2017 Share #339 Posted June 10, 2017 Basic training cadre and graduates from the Armor School at Fort Knox wearing berets in 1976. In the first picture they look like red berets but in the second they look like black berets. Thanks for posting this, the first photo is of my training platoon at Ft. Knox. I'm the newly minted Tanker in the center of the second photo with my California classmates wearing the same black beret as my avatar photo. Upon graduating we were told we could purchase our berets at the PX and a group of us made a mad dash to get ours. I didn't get much of a chance to wear in at my duty station in Germany, but I was able to dust it off and wear in when I joined a Cavalry Scout Platoon in the California Army National Guard back in 1981. Black berets were longer authorized for wear by Armor or Cav, but we still wore ours while conducting training in the field. The Brass knew about it but looked the other way as long as we did our jobs. Here's a photo of me and my Scout crew, circa 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 10, 2017 Share #340 Posted June 10, 2017 Thanks vonmoen, you know come to think of it now there is another Black Beret sighting post 1978 in this very topic. Post#235 Reservists of the 6th Bn 68th Armor 157th Inf Bde (Sep) from Pennsylvania. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/7676-us-army-berets-blue-black-green-maroon-tan/page-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmoen Posted June 10, 2017 Share #341 Posted June 10, 2017 One more photo from around 1980, Scouts from CSC, 4-160 Infantry at Ft. Irwin. Both served in Vietnam, one with the 1st Cav (right) and the other with the 3rd Marine Division (left). You can make out the 3rd Marine patch on the right sleeve. Marine combat patches were ordered removed from Army uniforms around 1982-3 if my memory serve me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPage Posted June 11, 2017 Share #342 Posted June 11, 2017 Whoa, I just realized this is post-1980. vonmoen - in the color photo above, does the guy on the left have crossed sabers on his flash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmoen Posted June 11, 2017 Share #343 Posted June 11, 2017 Whoa, I just realized this is post-1980. vonmoen - in the color photo above, does the guy on the left have crossed sabers on his flash? Yes he does. Although frowned upon by the Brass, our platoon wore berets and boonie hats in the field. The guys in the photo were two of the toughest, craziest NCOs I've ever worked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPage Posted June 11, 2017 Share #344 Posted June 11, 2017 Yes he does. Although frowned upon by the Brass, our platoon wore berets and boonie hats in the field. The guys in the photo were two of the toughest, craziest NCOs I've ever worked with. Good stuff; I think it's safe to say (according to the photos and recollections in the thread) that the berets with crossed swords on the flashes were primarily used by reconnaissance and scout units of the NG, in the 80s. Do you have any info as to how or where those were obtained? The one I have, has the ''US Cavalry'' company's label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmoen Posted June 11, 2017 Share #345 Posted June 11, 2017 When I graduated Basic Armor Training and AIT at Ft. Knox in 1976 I purchased my beret at the clothing sales PX. Mine is marked "Basque Beret 9 1/2 wool" in white stencil on the inside. When I joined up with the Scouts in 1981, about a third of the Platoon had berets. About half of those were Armor/Cav school trained while the other half comprised Vietnam Vets. Crossed sabers and rank insignia were worn about 90% of the time. The Scouts that received formal MOS training (11E or 19D) were allowed to wear the yellow cord on their class A uniform, and the yellow neck scark was also an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPage Posted June 12, 2017 Share #346 Posted June 12, 2017 I posted these before, but anyway the first one is what we're discussing, and the second one I'm going to presume is from a NG armored division or maybe a brigade. I wonder if the "US Cavalry" company sold these berets with flashes and branch insignia already attached(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted June 29, 2017 Share #347 Posted June 29, 2017 Blue beret with flash and DUI of the 158th Aviation Battalion circa 1975. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1409964235749268&set=p.1409964235749268&type=3&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted August 24, 2017 Share #348 Posted August 24, 2017 Member of the 2nd Battalion 509th of the 8th Infantry Division wearing a black beret with a larger than standard Ranger tab and 3rd Zouaves Regiment badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted September 7, 2017 Share #349 Posted September 7, 2017 Red berets worn by Engineer officer candidates at Fort Belvoir, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted September 14, 2017 Share #350 Posted September 14, 2017 United Nations blue beret worn by a member of the 1st Infantry Division in Bosnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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