MOH Ribbons

[llafoe]

Does this ribbon appear original (sorry, no photo of the reverse):

 

 

[Brig]

Does this ribbon appear original (sorry, no photo of the reverse):

 

this is that one off German eBay, isn't it? the man says he has what, 26 of them? No way he has 26 MOH ribbons, and I know he's selling them for 15-20 USD. Plus, it's practically impossible to tell a repro from original on a ribbon bar, even if seeing the back you could only get a 50/50 guess usually

[teufelhund]

Here is mine,

Probably a " For display only" model-VN period

But allmlarked 10% gold

Teufelhund

 

 

[Brig]

that poor Marine blouse. is that your modeling blouse? he has all kinds of medals on that thing!

[llafoe]

this is that one off German eBay, isn't it? the man says he has what, 26 of them? No way he has 26 MOH ribbons, and I know he's selling them for 15-20 USD. Plus, it's practically impossible to tell a repro from original on a ribbon bar, even if seeing the back you could only get a 50/50 guess usually

 

He has 19 currently for sale and has sold 25 @ $21.59 apiece. The thing that caught my eye was that the bottom row of three stars looks upside-down... that is, the middle star in the bottom row is lower than the two outside stars in lieu of being higher than the two outside stars.

 

Currently for sale:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bandspange-fuer-USA-MO...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bandspange-USA-hellbla...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Previous Auctions during the past 30 days:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bandspange-USA-hellbla...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bandspange-fuer-USA-MO...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bandspange-fuer-USA-MO...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

He's sold (1) to Denmark, (1) to France, (10) to Germany, (1) to Ireland, (10) to New Zealand and (2) to the US

[Brig]

I've noticed a lot of MOH ribbons, original, being cut awkwardly. They could be common German remakes, since German has no law banning their reproduction that I know of. Or movie props

[llafoe]

I've noticed a lot of MOH ribbons, original, being cut awkwardly. They could be common German remakes, since German has no law banning their reproduction that I know of. Or movie props

 

I thought that it might have been cut off register, but than I remembered the uncut ribbon and realized that it couldn't be cut in a manner to replicate this ribbon.

 

[Brig]

I still give those German ones a big

[teufelhund]

that poor Marine blouse. is that your modeling blouse? he has all kinds of medals on that thing!

 

Yes All kinds of Medals

 

( First issue of DSC french made + China & Nicaragua USMC Canpaigns) Restrikes

USMC good conduct medal WWI serialed.

WWI Victory medal with USMC 4th Brigade Campaign Clasps

French Croix de Guerre + Bronze Star ( Citation by the french for Belleau Wood)

French Croix de Guerre Fourragère with 2nd Division ( 4th Brig USMC was attached to)

 

Maybe the correct order of wearing is not good as well as for the ribbons ( one is a " city" victory medal with EG&A pin)

Any info will be welcome

Teufelhund

[Brig]

well, considering the EGA device is meant for Naval Personnel attached to Marine units during that campaign (Corpsmen, Chaplains), I don't think a Marine would be wearing it

[teufelhund]

well, considering the EGA device is meant for Naval Personnel attached to Marine units during that campaign (Corpsmen, Chaplains), I don't think a Marine would be wearing it

 

Out of the context , but I wanted to share these pics with all leathernecks present on this site

 

 

Yours

 

Teufelhund

[usmcaviator]

 

Here is a very unusal and original MOH X2 ribbon. I even call the USMC Museum about where this could of come from. Butler basically had it on all his uniforms.

They do not know of any authorization for this ribbon to have been made.

 

I have numerous different MOH ribbons. I will try and post them as I find them.

 

Enjoy.

4starchris

To find out more about the "Butler" stuff that surfaced some years back, you need to start at the source from where you took the pictures from, not the USMC museum. Many of Butler's items were sold off by his son. Smedley had a "falling out" with the Corps after being court martialed and he was always mad that he was snubbed for command in France. (He did get the 5th Brigade but they never saw action). He vowed never to have his items in any Marine sanctioned museum. These items surfaced and were owned by a well known collector from Chicago (these pictures were taken from his website). They are totally legit.

 

Maj Manifor USMC

[4STARCHRIS]

To find out more about the "Butler" stuff that surfaced some years back, you need to start at the source from where you took the pictures from, not the USMC museum. Many of Butler's items were sold off by his son. Smedley had a "falling out" with the Corps after being court martialed and he was always mad that he was snubbed for command in France. (He did get the 5th Brigade but they never saw action). He vowed never to have his items in any Marine sanctioned museum. These items surfaced and were owned by a well known collector from Chicago (these pictures were taken from his website). They are totally legit.

 

Maj Manifor USMC

 

 

Thank you for your reply. What I was asking was where did these MOH ribbons come from, what authorization, manufactory, etc? I find these MOH ribbons unique only to the Butler uniform. By the way, this uniform is in my possession. What regulation or authorization was given to have the MOH ribbon made this way is what I am searching for.

You are absolutely right about how general Butler felt about his uniforms ever being in a USMC museum.

Have you ever seen the MOH ribbon like this on any other uniform?

Thanks for the information though.

4starchris

[usmcaviator]

Thank you for your reply. What I was asking was where did these MOH ribbons come from, what authorization, manufactory, etc? I find these MOH ribbons unique only to the Butler uniform. By the way, this uniform is in my possession. What regulation or authorization was given to have the MOH ribbon made this way is what I am searching for.

You are absolutely right about how general Butler felt about his uniforms ever being in a USMC museum.

Have you ever seen the MOH ribbon like this on any other uniform?

Thanks for the information though.

4starchris

I thought Witt told me the whites, at least, went to a 401c non-profit organization, or were purchased through a grant? Is this you? Do you have the blues or the whites, or both? I assumed you didn't own them as you used the same pictures that are or were on his site. I do not know anything else about the ribbons. I am sure we would all love to see current photos of the Butler uniforms, I know the whites were in need of some cleaning and the blues ribbon bar was pretty tattered.

 

Mike

[4STARCHRIS]

I thought Witt told me the whites, at least, went to a 401c non-profit organization, or were purchased through a grant? Is this you? Do you have the blues or the whites, or both? I assumed you didn't own them as you used the same pictures that are or were on his site. I do not know anything else about the ribbons. I am sure we would all love to see current photos of the Butler uniforms, I know the whites were in need of some cleaning and the blues ribbon bar was pretty tattered.

 

Mike

 

Mike,

Thanks for the reply. The 401c is us. They did need cleaning REAL bad. The uniform has been restored to near virgin white state. The uniform is gorgous when compared to previous state. The uniform is going on tour at the moment with the National VFW to Kansas, DC etc. The 401c has the whites. Do not know what happened to the blues.

Thanks also for letting me know about the MOH ribbons. No one seems tho know anything about this version. Maybe they were custom mande just for him?

4starchris

[vicjoy1945]

Mike,

Thanks for the reply. The 401c is us. They did need cleaning REAL bad. The uniform has been restored to near virgin white state. The uniform is gorgous when compared to previous state. The uniform is going on tour at the moment with the National VFW to Kansas, DC etc. The 401c has the whites. Do not know what happened to the blues.

Thanks also for letting me know about the MOH ribbons. No one seems tho know anything about this version. Maybe they were custom mande just for him?

4starchris

 

 

Hi Chris

 

Very interesting...

 

So the Butler uniform, and I would assume the other general officer uniforms and items you have posted on these boards, are not actually in your personal collection ? They are owned and controlled by some sort of organization or consortium of which you are involved in !?!

 

Vic

[4STARCHRIS]

Hi Chris

 

Very interesting...

 

So the Butler uniform, and I would assume the other general officer uniforms and items you have posted on these boards, are not actually in your personal collection ? They are owned and controlled by some sort of organization or consortium of which you are involved in !?!

 

Vic

 

Vic,

Thank you for you question and reply. No you can not assume by what I posted with the Butler uniform. I mentioned the Butler uniform was with an 401c organization in response to someones elses question. As I have clearly posted on all my post the items I have ar in my personal collection as mentioned. However, I do lend my uniforms out to organizations and museums around the country. Example... MY General Abrams, Westmoreland, Johnson, MSG Chilson etc uniforms are on loan to the National VFW organization through a 401c organization to travel across the United States. My Military and Space Museum is MINE and all the items in it belong to ME and ME alone. Anytime I have posted something from something other than my collection I have given credit.

Again thanks for you inquiry and if I can answer anymore questions or clearify anything let me know.

4starchris

[ItemCo16527]

I only have one Medal of Honor ribbon bar and neck ribbon in my collection, so I decided several years ago to put them to good use: a display of Audie Murphy's decorations and insignia.

[4STARCHRIS]

Jeff,

what a nice tribute to Audie. Nice little frame. Thanks for sharing your hard work.

4starchris

[Ricardo]

Jeff,

what a nice tribute to Audie. Nice little frame. Thanks for sharing your hard work.

4starchris

 

VERY NICE!!!

 

Best regards,

 

Ricardo.

[ItemCo16527]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it

[USMCR79]

Repost from earlier

 

Got this set years ago in Massachusetts....John Mahalowski - MOH 1939 USS Squalus

 

Bill

[USMCR79]

Repost from earlier

 

Got this set years ago in Massachusetts....John Mahalowski - MOH 1939 USS Squalus

 

Bill

[Darrell]

Here's my contribution:

[ponyradish]

Here's my contribution:

Is it legal to own anything MOH?I have heard horror tales!Pony.