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:think: HI Guys I've recently acquired several WW2 climax squad boxes with out content.....

 

can someone post some detailed pix of multiple angels of the tray with the racks, this way I can identify what I'm looking for....

 

Also......other then the brass racks whats the difference between the WW1 and WW2 trays....

 

2) are there any repos of the trays or rack or both,or any military surplus outlets the might have some....... :blink:

 

 

all help greatly appreciated......

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

PS.....here a few pix of one of the kits I bought .....

 

13.10 shipped, other then the rust on the top, its really nice..... :w00t: :w00t:

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Hi Mark !

The differences, based on personal observation, between wooden insert WWI and later Squad Cleaning Kits (the ones made by Climax, I mean) are as follows. WWI Kits are deep blued (when reissued you will find them O.D. painted or - rarely - dull black), with recessed US markings on the lid. The racks are brass as well the screws. These Kits are totally unmarked. The insert is made of strong and dense wood.

Climax made ones are another story... First: parkerized. Then raised US on the lid, parkerized steel racks, both brass or steel parkerized screws. All pieces profusely and maniacally marked: C 64152 on the lid, C64153 on the box, C 64154 impressed on the wood (which is usually cheaper and rougher than in WWI examples), B 147258 on the right rack, B 147256 on the left rack. Not mentioning the Climax logo on the bottom of the Kit.

In the pictures you have some views of a WWI insert. The Climax is identical apart from the above mentioned differences. The last pictures is of a full Climax Kit. This gem is not mine: it belongs to the collection of my friend Johnny Peppers, a well known expert in the .45 1911/1911A1 field (and not only in that...). Please note the rods: ten indentical U.H.CO. - bright, unfinished - made between the Wars and very rare to find today.

As far as I know no wooden insert reproductions are made. But you can find them original - from time to time - on eBay...

Hope this can help.

Fausto

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Hi Mark !

The differences, based on personal observation, between wooden insert WWI and later Squad Cleaning Kits (the ones made by Climax, I mean) are as follows. WWI Kits are deep blued (when reissued you will find them O.D. painted or - rarely - dull black), with recessed US markings on the lid. The racks are brass as well the screws. These Kits are totally unmarked. The insert is made of strong and dense wood.

 

Fausto

 

Fausto... I think I might have one of the dull black WW1 boxes...but it almost looks parkerized.... :think:

 

 

nope..... I took it out in the sunlight and it's od green....

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Mark,

in all my bla-bla-bla I forgot to say that I have also a Squad Ckeaning Kit post WWII, welded partition and tray, which is dull black painted. I got this one some years ago, from the well known web gear and gun tools expert Stephen Dorsey. Nothing special: I think that when these kit were a little consumed someone refreshed them with a good coat of paint...The surprise was, when I got it, to find inside eight O'Hare Mfg. Co. rods professionally and finely dull black enameled over the parkerizing, with correct and expected wear on racks' friction points. In other words: original. Not even Chuck Clawson could explain why they had been painted: I presented him one of these rods, because he didn't believe that they had been painted... (btw he had presented me, in the past, some very nice and rare .45 stripping tools...)

Fausto

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Good luck,I started out with the box and insert and two years later still looking for pieces. :crying: The inserts show up occasionally on e-bay and some of the traders boards like on jouster.

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