vietvet7071 Posted March 28, 2010 Share #1 Posted March 28, 2010 I also picked this up yesterday, but I'm skeptical that it is theater and war time made. Its about 12 inches across. Backside shown in scan 2. Can anyone shed any light on this? :think: Thanks, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vietvet7071 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Share #2 Posted March 28, 2010 I also picked this up yesterday, but I'm skeptical that it is theater and war time made. Backside shown in scan 2. Can anyone shed any light on this? :think: Thanks, Ed Heres scan 2 of the backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted March 29, 2010 Share #3 Posted March 29, 2010 I also picked this up yesterday, but I'm skeptical that it is theater and war time made. Its about 12 inches across. Backside shown in scan 2. Can anyone shed any light on this? :think: Thanks, Ed What war were you asking about? It's for an Attack Helicopter Squadron, so It's not WWII era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vietvet7071 Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted March 29, 2010 What war were you asking about? It's for an Attack Helicopter Squadron, so It's not WWII era. I know that it is not WW II. I thought that who ever was looking at it would know I meant Vietnam. But, I guess I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted March 29, 2010 Share #5 Posted March 29, 2010 The thing to keep in mind about any Navy stuff is that the Navy did NOT have regulation patches other than insignia. What I mean by that is that jacket/unit patches were made all over to pretty much any/no standard. I have jacket patches that I purchased from the ships store of the USS Henry B. Wilson DDG-7 during an 18 month tour. They are different. The shape of the patchs are different, the size, the material and construction is different. The logo is the same, but the rest is different. The Ships Store Operator ordered them from the same vendor using the same item number. They just were made different. Additionally, when we were deployed, it was ofter cheaper to resupply these things locally. Some vendor would come aboard and make a pitch to provide X number of patches for $X. They would be close to what we would get from Vanguard, but diffenent. We didn't care, neither did the Navy. They were not regulation uniform items and we were not required to have them. Often, we would have custom made patches. I had special patches made for my Signalmen on an amphib I was on. It was an aligator wearing whites holding a semaphore flag. We also had "Assault Boat Signalman" patches made up (took the Assault Boat Coxain patch and substituted the anchors with signal flags). I had a CO in '89 who had flown with HAL 3 in VN. He would wear his flight jacket and over time added patches to it. Your patch looks pretty new. At 12 inches, it was for the back of a jacket. It might just have never been sewn on anything. But it looks as original as anything else Sailors get to put on their jackets. Steve Hesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vietvet7071 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted March 30, 2010 The thing to keep in mind about any Navy stuff is that the Navy did NOT have regulation patches other than insignia. What I mean by that is that jacket/unit patches were made all over to pretty much any/no standard. I have jacket patches that I purchased from the ships store of the USS Henry B. Wilson DDG-7 during an 18 month tour. They are different. The shape of the patchs are different, the size, the material and construction is different. The logo is the same, but the rest is different. The Ships Store Operator ordered them from the same vendor using the same item number. They just were made different. Additionally, when we were deployed, it was ofter cheaper to resupply these things locally. Some vendor would come aboard and make a pitch to provide X number of patches for $X. They would be close to what we would get from Vanguard, but diffenent. We didn't care, neither did the Navy. They were not regulation uniform items and we were not required to have them. Often, we would have custom made patches. I had special patches made for my Signalmen on an amphib I was on. It was an aligator wearing whites holding a semaphore flag. We also had "Assault Boat Signalman" patches made up (took the Assault Boat Coxain patch and substituted the anchors with signal flags). I had a CO in '89 who had flown with HAL 3 in VN. He would wear his flight jacket and over time added patches to it. Your patch looks pretty new. At 12 inches, it was for the back of a jacket. It might just have never been sewn on anything. But it looks as original as anything else Sailors get to put on their jackets. Steve Hesson Thanks for the info Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake36bravo Posted March 30, 2010 Share #7 Posted March 30, 2010 It's unusual because it's a jacket patch at 12" but from the images as they are it seems okay to me. There are some consistent techniques to it. I also have some Seawolves pocket patches and they tend to vary. I believe there were three versions for HAL-3. Looks Asian made for sure. Where did you score it? I wouldn't have a problem owning this piece. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F50lrrp Posted March 30, 2010 Share #8 Posted March 30, 2010 When I was stationed in Cu Chi, RVN in 1968/69 with Det B-36, We would occasionally be supported by Navy, Sea Wolfs. They were very professional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted March 31, 2010 Share #9 Posted March 31, 2010 This piece looks fine. I have seen them this size on the backs of G-1's and on party jackets. From the photo is looks vintage Vietnamese made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted March 31, 2010 Share #10 Posted March 31, 2010 The backing material looks correct for the period. The workmanship looks like it is from a professional shop. It's the first one of these I have seen this large, but I agree with Bob that this looks good. Nice item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted March 31, 2010 Share #11 Posted March 31, 2010 HI Ed, Very nice patch. I echo Bob and Gil as to its originality. Gil is right , this is very well done , much better than most of the smaller patches. Viet made patches sure run a gamut of quality , from almost crude to the chainstiched ones or the very well made hand made ones. I see now I have another patch that I'm going to have to look for. I have several of the small ones but not one this size. Nice score again. Regards, Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted March 31, 2010 Share #12 Posted March 31, 2010 Looks like the right type of work for the Nam period, could it have been made in Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted March 31, 2010 Share #13 Posted March 31, 2010 No, it is Vietnamese made, not Japanese made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vietvet7071 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks to everyone that posted info on the patch. The patch was a "gift at no charge" from a local antique dealer. It is going to make a great addition to my collection. Thanks again, Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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