Brig Posted July 7, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 7, 2007 I've had these sitting in my collection for probably 4 or 5 years, and just now am getting around to researching them. First, on the left, is a circular patch (specialty striker??) of a white anchor on a blue propellor. Never sewn. No idea what this is for or the era? Doesn't glow, so I'm guessing WWII? In the center, a really beat up rank patch for a Petty Officer 3rd Class, in the aviation section because of the wings, correct? Been sewn on a uniform at one time. The interesting thing is, on the rear, in the chevron in white thread, is '1940'. I don't think I've seen this before, but admitedly I don't look at Navy patches often. Anyone know if dating a patch like this was common or why it was done?? Patch doesn't glow Third patch, Navy Striker, been sewn and maybe glued to an album at one time. I think it's WWII (doesn't glow) for something in communications or radios. Anyone know? Sorry guys, I don't know much about Navy insignia. Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share #2 Posted July 7, 2007 rears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 7, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 7, 2007 The one with the prop in the background is a Navy WAVES Collar Insignia for the blue uniform. It was worn by officers and enlisted. Navy NURSE CORPS members had their own collar insignia. The rating on the right is for a Operations Specialist (OS) and one website describes the duties as: "Function as plotters, radio-telephone and Command and Control sound-powered telephone talkers and maintain Combat Information Center (CIC) displays of strategic and tactical information. Operate surveillance and altitude radars Identification Friend or Foe (IFF), and associated equipment. Serve as Air Traffic Controllers for helicopters and fixed-wing supersonic jet aircraft. Serve as watch supervisors and section leaders; interpret and evaluate presentations and tactical situations and make recommendations to supervisors during watch conditions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted July 7, 2007 interesting, thanks. I don't know a thing about the WAVES, anyone have a good website about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 7, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 7, 2007 The rating on the right is for a Operations Specialist (OS) and one website describes the duties as: OS's also eat lots of cheezy poofs while on watch, and they are typically the first ones on liberty while the ship is pierside. Just my two cents.... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectsmedals Posted July 8, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 8, 2007 Here is a nice web site on WWII Waves. http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/prs-tpi...es/wave-ww2.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share #7 Posted July 8, 2007 thanks... does anybody else have any rank patches with the dates sewn on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Militaria Posted July 8, 2007 Share #8 Posted July 8, 2007 The only WWII navy rank patches I once owned had the date sewn into them. I may be wrong, but other collectors told me it was the standard in WWII. Mine were dated "1944". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted July 8, 2007 interesting practice, to date them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 8, 2007 Tim, here are several dated and manufacture marked navy rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 8, 2007 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 8, 2007 more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 8, 2007 makers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 8, 2007 more makers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #15 Posted July 8, 2007 maker stamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted July 8, 2007 so this was a common practice. cool. makes dating a lot easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36-tex Posted July 8, 2007 Share #17 Posted July 8, 2007 Common may not be the word for it. I would say for every 15 or 20 navy rates I see, 1 or 2 may be marked this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted July 8, 2007 hmm...it was an interesting practice. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted July 9, 2007 Share #19 Posted July 9, 2007 Dates on the WWII era rating badges were contract dates, and not necessarily the date of manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpcsdan Posted July 9, 2007 Share #20 Posted July 9, 2007 Dates on the WWII era rating badges were contract dates, and not necessarily the date of manufacturer. As Lee mentioned, these are contract dates. Not all makers sewed the dates on the back of the rating badge. I've been told these have been seen from 1936 through 1947. I have examples of 1938-1945 in my collection. Here's another thread that covers maker "Liona" sewn on the back of rating badges. Liona stands for Lion Brothers. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...00&hl=Liona "NY" above stands for NYEC, New York Embroidery Co. I'd like to know who used the "anchor" on the back. I've got a few of these, but don't yet know who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpcsdan Posted July 11, 2007 Share #21 Posted July 11, 2007 As Lee mentioned, these are contract dates. Not all makers sewed the dates on the back of the rating badge. I've been told these have been seen from 1936 through 1947. I have examples of 1938-1945 in my collection. Here's another thread that covers maker "Liona" sewn on the back of rating badges. Liona stands for Lion Brothers. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...00&hl=Liona "NY" above stands for NYEC, New York Embroidery Co. I'd like to know who used the "anchor" on the back. I've got a few of these, but don't yet know who it is. Correction, NYEC stands for New York Emblem Corporation, 40 West 24th St., NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted April 19, 2008 Share #22 Posted April 19, 2008 The rating on the right is for a Operations Specialist (OS) and one website describes the duties as: "Function as plotters, radio-telephone and Command and Control sound-powered telephone talkers and maintain Combat Information Center (CIC) displays of strategic and tactical information. Operate surveillance and altitude radars Identification Friend or Foe (IFF), and associated equipment. Serve as Air Traffic Controllers for helicopters and fixed-wing supersonic jet aircraft. Serve as watch supervisors and section leaders; interpret and evaluate presentations and tactical situations and make recommendations to supervisors during watch conditions." Actually, the RD/OS rating is upside down, the arrow should go up and to the left, crossing the oscilliscope signal. This rating was for a Radarman (RD) from 1943 to 1972, when it was changed to Operations Specialist (OS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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