GAZOO Posted January 9, 2023 #376 Posted January 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, LuftStalg1 said: The difference of the white border is strictly due to the age of the miniature medal, 1940's vs 1990's etc. And now that I look at the set again it seems that the second (New) version of the LOM was added at some point and is NOT original to the set of mini's. Now when and by whom the second LOM was added who knows? But someone clearly wanted to demonstrate that the recipient received TWO different grades of the same medal. You should look into when the officer was awarded each LOM and that will tell you about when the second medal was added to the original set of mini's. Do you have a name associated with this grouping? Thanks I am still new and Not sure about the mini's but the original early issue LOM Originally had a thin white edge boarder and was enlarged later around the same time the Hooks were removed, at least thats what I have read and noticed in many photos I do have a two snap Commander Grade LOM with thin white ribbon edge boarder
Hermanus Posted January 9, 2023 #377 Posted January 9, 2023 I found his name: Vice-Admiraal Albert Henri Johan van der Schatte Olivier (March 4, 1908 - August 14, 1967) Vice-Admiraal is the Dutch equivalent of a 3 star Admiral. I don't know when he received both Legions of Merit from the US, but he received the Dutch permission to wear them on his uniform as follows: - Officer Legion of Merit by Royal Decree number 16 on May 3th, 1962, - Commander Legion of Merit by Royal Decree number 62 on March 16, 1964. Regards Herman
Hermanus Posted January 10, 2023 #378 Posted January 10, 2023 How about this one. Vice-admiraal Kruys. Regards Herman
Hermanus Posted January 10, 2023 #379 Posted January 10, 2023 Vice-admiraal Kruys received an Officer grade twice ! The first in 1943 and the second in 1960. Regards Herman
Allan H. Posted January 28, 2023 #381 Posted January 28, 2023 My latest pick up. Now I have a BB&B to go with my Mayer.
Vintagemilitaria Posted February 14, 2023 #382 Posted February 14, 2023 Major General Gustave Giraud, French Air Force. Likely awarded while he was the air and defense attaché to the US in 1970
Vintagemilitaria Posted February 14, 2023 #383 Posted February 14, 2023 WWII Navy Legion of Merit awarded to Captain Gilbert Myers “Captain Gilbert B. Myers, United States Navy, was awarded the Legion of Merit for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services to the Government of the United States as Secretary of the joint Communications Board and U.S. Secretary for the Combined Communications Board under the Joint and Combined Chiefs of Staff from March 1942 to November 1945.”
Vintagemilitaria Posted February 14, 2023 #384 Posted February 14, 2023 Brigadier General Arthur Harris, US Military attaché to Mexico during WWII. He was instrumental in the establishment, training and integration of the Mexican Air Expeditionary Force, better known as the Aztec Eagle Squadron 201, into the allied war effort against Japan in the Philippines. The Aztec Eagles were Mexico's only military unit to ever engage in combat outside the country's national borders. He was awarded his LoM for his time as attaché. “Brigadier General Arthur Ringland Harris, United States Army, was awarded the Legion of Merit for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services to the Government of the United States as Military Attache to Mexico and Argentina from 1943 to 1946.”
ravrick Posted March 13, 2023 #385 Posted March 13, 2023 Hi, here's one that I have, not sure how old it is because the pin is absent, but compared to my other recent examples it's better quality.. Rick
Hermanus Posted April 11, 2023 #386 Posted April 11, 2023 I throw a new foreign recepient in. Below a picture of a miniatureset with a Legion of Merit awarded to Dutch Lieutenant-General M.J. Wilmink, commander Dutch Land Forces from 1988 to 1992. The Legion of Merit was awarded on December 30th 1992 in the US Army General Order #34 as a Commander grade. The device attached to the miniature is silver, but lacks the horizontal scrolls. Regards Herman
Hermanus Posted April 11, 2023 #387 Posted April 11, 2023 The generals Legion of Merit ribbon is correct in my opinion.
alfredely Posted September 17, 2023 #388 Posted September 17, 2023 Just got my first Legion of Merit! Brooch is marked GI with a diamond mark, which I can't find any info on. I'm new to medal collecting, so apologies if this is well-known mark. I figured this medal is 1960s-1980s era. Any help in pinning down age/maker would be appreciated. Thanks!
javimetal Posted December 29, 2023 #389 Posted December 29, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 9:47 PM, alfredely said: Just got my first Legion of Merit! Brooch is marked GI with a diamond mark, which I can't find any info on. I'm new to medal collecting, so apologies if this is well-known mark. I figured this medal is 1960s-1980s era. Any help in pinning down age/maker would be appreciated. Thanks! This hallmark is William's & Anderson. I also think it is from approximately 1960-1980, since in a USMC grouping Vietnam era that I have, one of their medals also has that mark.
Allan H. Posted March 11, 2024 #390 Posted March 11, 2024 Rare Legion of Merit Officer medal made by Bailey, Banks and Biddle. It is unusual to see a numbered slot brooch. The small, “black” suspension ring is also seen on early BB&B contract pieces.
jmpmstr Posted March 11, 2024 #391 Posted March 11, 2024 Gorgeous example Allan...very nice investigative research on manufacture and period. IT looks like the Officer device has a good amount of vaulting to it which, to me, indicates an early device vice the newer less detailed artificially finished ones often added to earlier LOMs to create an Officer grade. The enamel work is marvelous as well. My tell of a solid early manufacturer is the detail in the stars where the white is within the border of the star and is finely detailed enough to see them individually. Outstanding find
carrabassett Posted March 23, 2024 #392 Posted March 23, 2024 Here are three LOM’s I bought off a dealer friend today. He had no info on them and they’re not named but they are heavy, very detailed and in beautiful condition. I have no experience with these medals so was hoping for some help with dating them and comments in general. The bullion blazer/breast badge is unique and also very detailed and the back looks light some British-made patches I’ve seen? I think the medal is maker marked HLP and partially over stamped N-GII. Thanks for any help!
Allan H. Posted March 24, 2024 #393 Posted March 24, 2024 Carrabassett, You LOM blazer patch is Pakistani made. Your LOM Commander looks to be Vietnam era, and the HLP (His Lordship Products) is probably late Vietnam era. Allan
LuftStalg1 Posted March 31, 2024 #395 Posted March 31, 2024 Love the Paki made blazer patch, need to find me one of those! 🥰
bulldog06 Posted April 7, 2024 #396 Posted April 7, 2024 Early pierced arrows, reverse enamel, unnumbered Officer Legion of Merit. the planchet appears to be similar to the example shown in Call of Duty expanded edition pg 148. The brooch is a split round gilt type instead of the full wrap brooch normally seen on early LOMs. The sewing seems to be similar to the technique used by Bailey Banks and Biddle on the early Purple Heart and Silver Star medals. With the unnumbered split brooch, it is possible that this medal is an early Bailey Banks and Biddle sample. It could also be one of the early unnumbered production medals mentioned by Allen Menke on page 6 in his JOMSA article in the Sept Oct 2022 issue. Allen notes that the early production medals were initially unnumbered and possibly issued until numbering was begun. "It is highly likely that some unnumbered medals were awarded to foreign recipients, although that issue remains cloudy." Later numbering on the brooch would have required a change to the full wrap version. Medals issued to foreign recipients should have included the Officer device. The device on this medal is domed with short round posts. The medal came from the collection of a long time collector/ dealer. Mike
LuftStalg1 Posted April 7, 2024 #397 Posted April 7, 2024 Would foreign awarded pieces NOT be engraved? In any case it is a beautiful example of my favorite US type of which I only recently acquired a pierced example. 🥰
bulldog06 Posted April 8, 2024 #398 Posted April 8, 2024 My understanding is that valor medals were delivered to the Army without engraving. The Army would then, as needed, order any necessary engraving from the Phila QM depot or similar facility. I often wish a medal could "talk" and tell us where it has been.
FlyNavy02 Posted April 9, 2024 #399 Posted April 9, 2024 Hi all, Would appreciate any information you can share about my numbered (380) LOM Commander as found. Neck ribbon has two snaps. The screw back lapel pin has a raised "STERLING" mark. The 1960s? ribbon bar has long clutch posts with WW II era flat sterling clutches and is marked "SIMON GI" Thanks!
bulldog06 Posted April 9, 2024 #400 Posted April 9, 2024 The numbering, star detail and workmanship show this to be a beautiful early Bailey Banks and Biddle medal. Info I've gathered says that this medal is part of the first production run of Commander medals. The other examples I have see have hook and eye fasteners on the cravat. I've seen the two snap cravat shown on Balfour produced medals from the 1950's. My info is from observation and discussions. None comes from published sources other than forums like this one. very nice medal Mike
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