Wharfmaster Posted February 6, 2022 Share #351 Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, GAZOO said: Just Received this LOM Commander To Lieutenant General Sir Brian Gwynne HORROCKS, KCB, KBE, C.B. DSO, MC GOC British XXX Corps This is for Operation "CLIPPER" Mid Nov 1944 Joint UK & US Offensive to reduce the GELLENKIRCHEN SALIENT & Take control of the Hurtgen Forest Supporting Documents Signed Truman APPROVAL on WHITE HOUSE stationary Signed, Embossed Kings Order of Dispatch Published in London Gazette 9 Aug 1945 Not sure about the LOM Date NOT A HOOK TYPE But only 2 hand sown snaps, TOTAL Length of Ribbon pulled a bit taught 20" Tight around my neck ? I have included photos of front, back, Side and snaps. Not sure if that helps or not Very nice indeed. Now you will need to find a copy of the General's book, A FULL LIFE, 1960. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted February 6, 2022 Share #352 Posted February 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Wharfmaster said: Very nice indeed. Now you will need to find a copy of the General's book, A FULL LIFE, 1960. W Indeed I need to find a signed copy🙂 Also looking to get the Truman Signature PSA Authentication and Encapsulate the letters Signature sadly is Very FADED so need to protect it as best I can Curious if anyone thinks this LOM C fits the time-line ? since the London Gazette Dispach is AUG 9 1945 I would expect this to be from that time-line When did they stop numbering, NO NUMBER When did they stop the Loop Catch ? Thanks in advance, All discussion Good or Bad is Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wartimecollectables.com Posted February 6, 2022 Share #353 Posted February 6, 2022 On 6/22/2020 at 10:32 PM, wartimecollectables.com said: Legion of Merit Commander grade awarded to Dr. General Hans Speidel. Army of the Federal Republic of Germany and former Wehrmacht General. During WWII Hans Speidel held commands on both the Eastern and Western. In April 1944 he was chief of staff to Field Marshal Erwin Rommel when he played a role in the conspiracy to assassinate Adolf Hitler. Post war he joined the Bundeswehr becoming it's first Four Star General. General Speidel, commanded NATO land forces in Central Europe from 1957 to 1963. He was recipient of both the Knights Cross and the Legion of Merit. GENERAL ORDERS: Department of the Army, General Orders No. 12 (April 11, 1961) CITATION: The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, 20 July 1942, takes pleasure in presenting the Legion of Merit, in the Degree of Commander to General Dr. Hans Speidel, Army of the Federal Republic of Germany, for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services to the Government of the United States, from April 1957 to January 1961. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted February 16, 2022 Share #354 Posted February 16, 2022 Just recently Added the 12C CHIEF COMMANDER & Ribbon/Lapel Pin to my collection 1950/60s LOM-CC (as best I can call with my limited experience) 1945 - 51 BG HORROCKS LOM-C (AS best I can deduce from the construction & Documentation) Added the Commander Ribbon & Screw back Lapel Pin to the collection (not part of the original Horrocks set) JUST Need to find a PIERCED OUT LOM Officer and Legionnaire to complete the GROUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted February 16, 2022 Share #355 Posted February 16, 2022 Your commander is a 1951 Balfour contract, IMO the best after the BBB strikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted February 16, 2022 Share #356 Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, jmpmstr said: Your commander is a 1951 Balfour contract, IMO the best after the BBB strikes Thank you so much, very much appreciated EDIT Were you speaking about the Chief Commander BEING 1951 Balfour Contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmpmstr Posted February 17, 2022 Share #357 Posted February 17, 2022 No I know the commander is Balfour. I’d need closer pics of the chief to make a fair assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted February 17, 2022 Share #358 Posted February 17, 2022 3 hours ago, jmpmstr said: No I know the commander is Balfour. I’d need closer pics of the chief to make a fair assessment Again Thank you very much. The Neck ribbon on the Commander is a Hand sewn Pink/Red Thread (same color as ribbon) and only two snaps. I have seen one reported to be 1946 / 49 with only 1 snap (transition period) and the 1951 two snap version. This one (shown above) has a Signed Truman Approval order White House stationary letter so would have to be the 45/53 time period. I would suspect the one snap transition LOM-C neck ribbon could of been a very short lived time frame considering the earlier ones had 2 hooks { I could be mistaken on that point}. May have been just a trial version to test out the snaps until someone noticed it should have two Anyone know when Balfour first started supplying the Medals ? Thinking these two snap/ Hand sown LOM-C could of been issued earlier or even later than 1951 probably starting very early in there production under Balfour. PLEASE take everything I say with a grain of salt I am very new to this so I truly appreciate all the help you have provided, Thank you so much Oh almost forgot why I responded I do have more views the following forum link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted February 19, 2022 Share #359 Posted February 19, 2022 Three time LOM recipient Air Force Lt. General Robert J. Friedman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted February 19, 2022 Share #360 Posted February 19, 2022 The medals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted February 19, 2022 Share #361 Posted February 19, 2022 The medals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskjl Posted February 19, 2022 Share #362 Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, manayunkman said: Three time LOM recipient Air Force Lt. General Robert J. Friedman What a great group, well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermanus Posted February 19, 2022 Share #363 Posted February 19, 2022 I would say 4 times a LoM.recepient. I spot a LoM with 3 oak leaf clusters. Very nice group manayunkman. Regards Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted February 19, 2022 Share #364 Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, dskjl said: What a great group, well done! Only the Air Medal is not engraved. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted February 19, 2022 Share #365 Posted February 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Hermanus said: I would say 4 times a LoM.recepient. I spot a LoM with 3 oak leaf clusters. Very nice group manayunkman. Regards Herman What an amateur oversight. Yes it is 4 times and thank you Herman for pointing that out. Here is a close up of his miniature medal bar and the LoM has 3 clusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan H. Posted February 28, 2022 Share #366 Posted February 28, 2022 Joseph Mayer LOM with reverse enameling and pierced arrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dentino Posted February 28, 2022 Share #367 Posted February 28, 2022 What a beautiful and rare medal Allan! The pierced arrow LOM is a grail item and is a wonderful early example. Thanks for sharing it here with us to drool over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted March 1, 2022 Share #368 Posted March 1, 2022 14 hours ago, Allan H. said: Joseph Mayer LOM with reverse enameling and pierced arrows. Beautiful piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampo Posted May 7, 2022 Share #369 Posted May 7, 2022 Here my recently aquired commander legion of merit. Numbered #702. WW2 issue I guess? Sampo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted May 10, 2022 Share #370 Posted May 10, 2022 Beautiful commander LOM. Looks WWII to me with the numbering. I have the same case with a 1951 Balfour commander LOM in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted May 10, 2022 Share #371 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 11:41 AM, sampo said: Here my recently aquired commander legion of merit. Numbered #702. WW2 issue I guess? Sampo Nice does it have Hook or Snap (2 or 3 snaps) Ribbon I still need a case for mine :) My money is on HOOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted May 10, 2022 Share #372 Posted May 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Little said: Beautiful commander LOM. Looks WWII to me with the numbering. I have the same case with a 1951 Balfour commander LOM in it. Also nice :) 2 snap ribbon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted May 10, 2022 Share #373 Posted May 10, 2022 2 snap ribbon on my Balfour commander LOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZOO Posted May 10, 2022 Share #374 Posted May 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Little said: 2 snap ribbon on my Balfour commander LOM Mine as well :) I still question the exact date they were issued, no real reason except I cant find an official timeline but maybe i have just not found one yet :) Thanks BTW good to know EDIT I should mention I think they were issued earlier, with the single snap being dated earlier and I would think that got changed FAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted May 10, 2022 Share #375 Posted May 10, 2022 It would be great if the Balfour was issued in WWII. Balfour did make some WWII medals. But the only info I've ever seen is that the Balfour commander LOM was issued in 1951. I believe jmar, here on the forum, is pretty knowledgeable about commander LOM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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