all-bull Posted January 9, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 9, 2010 Hey guys, I would like to get a positive ID on this. I have heard it was for a Marine Helicopter unit, and also for a HAL 3 Seawolves Navy Helicopter Unit. Can anyone provide a picture of this being worn or some hard evidence to prove it 100% one way or the other? Thanks a whole lot in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted January 9, 2010 Share #2 Posted January 9, 2010 Hunter-This is a patch that has been around for years and years as a unidentified USMC unit patch. Within th last few years it has been positively identified as Detachment 5 HALTRON-3. I believe in Scott Kraska's & Steve Kirby's new book they show photos of it being worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Patrol Posted January 12, 2010 Share #3 Posted January 12, 2010 In our book "River Patrol Insignia of the U.S. Navy (Vietnam)" we show Door gunner Michael Connolly's OG-107 with a tiny "filthy five" patch on the shoulder. Connolly designed the patch for the U.S. Navy helicopter unit HAL-3 detachment 5. All the original patches were locally made and hand embroidered. Original patches are extremely rare since DET 5 was a small unit. Yours appears to be an in-country reproduction. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne-Hunter Posted March 24, 2011 Share #4 Posted March 24, 2011 In our book "River Patrol Insignia of the U.S. Navy (Vietnam)" we show Door gunner Michael Connolly's OG-107 with a tiny "filthy five" patch on the shoulder. Connolly designed the patch for the U.S. Navy helicopter unit HAL-3 detachment 5. All the original patches were locally made and hand embroidered. Original patches are extremely rare since DET 5 was a small unit. Yours appears to be an in-country reproduction. Steve I recently ran across one of these patches and was wondering; when you say in country reproduction, do you mean period made for collectors, but not team worn, like the infamous cheap charlies and a lot of the RT patches? Or is it a later reproduction altogher? :think: Thanks ABN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all-bull Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted March 24, 2011 As far as I'm concerned, this Filthy Five was made in Vietnam during the War. This topic below will help you see how everyone has different viewpionts when it comes to Vietnam patches. Thanks! http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...;hl=rt+arkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Patrol Posted March 25, 2011 Share #6 Posted March 25, 2011 These are in-country made reproductions. When they were made, is another story. Evidence is out there that these were made during the war, but I'm not convinced. It is more likely that these were made after the unit left the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kekoaiki Posted March 25, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 25, 2011 O, O here we go again :crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34BDQ Posted March 25, 2011 Share #8 Posted March 25, 2011 Dam you Luong Phan for making these exactly as designed by the desiger!!!!!!!! But I guess that you had a order and just made it by machine because it was faster and the crew member wanted it quickly. I am glad that you made patches for the troops, for if you did not....... we would not be commenting on them today. CHEAP CHARLIE, I mean MR LUONG PHAN you DA the MAN!!!! Hunter I like the patch. I have one with a tab at the top. Will send when I find scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Patrol Posted March 25, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 25, 2011 I think Bob showed us some evidence, some dated documents that place this patch in production mid 70s, which is fine, but you have to consider when the unit left. Also, no HAL3 vets have ever come forward with this type of patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted March 25, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 25, 2011 I think Bob showed us some evidence, some dated documents that place this patch in production mid 70s, which is fine, but you have to consider when the unit left. Also, no HAL3 vets have ever come forward with this type of patch. Early 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaki1941 Posted March 31, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 31, 2011 I did alot of research on this unit several years back, found this photos in my archive. Det. 5 Unit flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaki1941 Posted March 31, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 31, 2011 Different variation of the det. 5 insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaki1941 Posted March 31, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 31, 2011 Last one. Lousy quality photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all-bull Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted March 31, 2011 Howard, I'll give you the name of the person who designed your second patch in exchange for your first one...What a beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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