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This is an M1 carbine stock pouch I bought reciently. It was sold to me as Original. It was cheap, same price as a good repro. I don't really believe it is original. I realy didn't care if it was or not I just needed one for a carbine I have. I've never seen the name of this maker before. Was Walter E. Allen a contractor for US carbine pouches? :think:

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Here are some contractors that I found. Does anybody know if there were any others?

 

- AIRTRESS MIDLAND

- ALDON

- APPLETON AWNING SHOP

- AVERY

- B.B.S. Co.

- BISCAYNE TENT & AWNING Co.

- S. FROEHLICH Co.

- G. & R. Co.

- HAV. STCH. Co.

- J.Q.M.D.

- J.S. & S. Co.

- KADIN

- LAIRD SCHOBER

- MI-WEST DUCK & CANVAS Co.

- RUBON

- SACO-MOC SHOE Co. Corp.

- D.M. SHOE Co.

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Can you post a good picture of the front? It doesnt really matter if that is a known WWII maker, repros are often stamped with them...

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Here are some contractors that I found. Does anybody know if there were any others?

 

- AIRTRESS MIDLAND

- ALDON

- APPLETON AWNING SHOP

- AVERY

- B.B.S. Co.

- BISCAYNE TENT & AWNING Co.

- S. FROEHLICH Co.

- G. & R. Co.

- HAV. STCH. Co.

- J.Q.M.D.

- J.S. & S. Co.

- KADIN

- LAIRD SCHOBER

- MI-WEST DUCK & CANVAS Co.

- RUBON

- SACO-MOC SHOE Co. Corp.

- D.M. SHOE Co.

 

 

You can add the following -

 

- Boyt

- Victory

- Pittsburgh Garter Co.

- Puce Manufacturing Co.

- George S. Rumley Co.

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Sgt Saunders
Can you post a good picture of the front? It doesnt really matter if that is a known WWII maker, repros are often stamped with them...

 

It's still on the gun. Will this do?

 

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Captainofthe7th

It looks repro to me, but it could be unissued. Check out atthefront, What Price glory, and WWII Impressions to see if it looks like any of the gear they have available.

 

Rob

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The only company I know that bothers putting the black sewing lines on their kit is ATF, and as far as I know this make name isn't one of theirs. Mint original I would say. Never heard of the maker, but there are so many more odd ones that aren't on the list above I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Cheers,

Glen.

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Totally real! ATF is usually stamped something with Crawford MFG. ATF MFG or SEMS MFG. WW2 IMP is marked with WW2 IMPRESSIONS.

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This is an M1 carbine stock pouch I bought reciently. It was sold to me as Original. It was cheap, same price as a good repro. I don't really believe it is original. I realy didn't care if it was or not I just needed one for a carbine I have. I've never seen the name of this maker before. Was Walter E. Allen a contractor for US carbine pouches? :think:

Thanks

 

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Walter E Allen

Oklahoma City, OK

 

They made tents, herringbone suits, shelter tents, shelter half tents, cotton field trousers.

 

No contracts for cartridgbe pouches but this listing is only for contracts over 50k

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Walter E Allen

Oklahoma City, OK

 

They made tents, herringbone suits, shelter tents, shelter half tents, cotton field trousers.

 

No contracts for cartridgbe pouches but this listing is only for contracts over 50k

 

Super info! Thank you! They may have made a small run. Is there a way all the contractors names cound be pinned for future reference?

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They came in an assortment of colors-that's for sure. There was a time when I'd always grab one or two of these on my way out of a militaria show with my last few bucks-I'd try to get every different maker I could find.

 

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They came in an assortment of colors-that's for sure. There was a time when I'd always grab one or two of these on my way out of a militaria show with my last few bucks-I'd try to get every different maker I could find.

 

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Nice collection boyt44! How many different makers do you have?

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I really have no idea how many of these pouches I have-these are just "loose" ones I rounded up for this photo,which I took for some other forum to illustrate the wide variety of colors encountered in US WW2 webgear. I never made a list of all the makers I have.

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I really have no idea how many of these pouches I have-these are just "loose" ones I rounded up for this photo,which I took for some other forum to illustrate the wide variety of colors encountered in US WW2 webgear. I never made a list of all the makers I have.

 

That is awesome. I want to try and collect something and see if I can find most of the makers and dates....

 

Sam

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These aren't in my collection but this is a list of makers generated by a fellow named "Jimmy C". This was posted on the U.S. Weapons Forum on the GUNBOARDS site. Kim

 

This is a list of the manufacturers and dates of the "belt" type of pouches in my collection:

 

 

1. TWEEDIE FOOTWARE CORP 1956

2. RANIER BELL CO. 1951

3. NO MARKING "CIA" POUCH NO DATE

4. GAILEE 1945

5. CORRECT SHOES INC 1952

6. SANTA FE ELECTRIC LAUNDRY CO 1952, 1953

7. ST CROIX CO. 1944

8. CAMLIN FASHION 1943, 1944

9. POLEY MFG 1944

10. AVERY (NYLON) 1944

11. A-G CORP 1944

12. PITTSBURG GARTER 1944

13. REDWINE & STRAIN 1945

14. ARAKELIAN CO. 1952

15. J.A. SHOE 1944

16. CEDAR RAPIDS TENT & AWNING CO 1945

17. MIDLAND FABRICS CO. 1944

18. SHANE MFG CO. 1944

19. HAMEL CO. 1944

20. ALDON 1945

21. SACO MOC & SHOE 1951

22. DALE FOOTWARE 1951

23. J.Q.M.D. 1951

24. CALDWELL PROD 1945

25. FUCE MANU CO. 1944

26. B.A.B. CO. 1945

27. REGAL RUG 1945

28. CHAS. W BRENEMAN CO. 1952

29. AJAY 1945

30. GEORGE S. RUMLEY CO. 1945

 

 

 

 

This is a list of the manufacturers and dates of the type of pouch with snap on back:

 

1. J.Q.M.D. 1942

2. LAIRD SCHOBER 1943

3. HOFF 1943

4. ARNOLD MFG CO 1944

5. BOYT USMC 1945

6. UPDIKE 1943

7. S. FROEHLICH CO. 1943

8. G & R C. 1943

9. PARFAIT 1943

10. R.B. HANSON MFG CO. 1942, 1944

11. VICTORY 1943

12. J.S.&S. CO. 1943

13. M & H CO. 1943

14. H. st. CO. 1943

15. HAV.STCH CO. 1943

16. B.B.S. CO. 1943

17. BISCANE TENT & AWNING CO. 1943

18. RUBON K.C. 1942

19. ATLAS MFG CO. 1943

20. G.B. CO. 1943

21. AIRTRESS MIDLAND 1944

22. S & F CO. 1943

23. WALTER E ALLEN 1944

24. CHAROLETT TENT & AWNING CO. 1943

25. APPLETON AWNING SHOP 1943

26. SACO-MOC.SHOE CO. 1943

27. D.M. SHOE CO. 1943

28. B.B. INC 1943

29. KADIN 1943

30. T.F.S. CO, 1943

31. ATLAS AWNING 1943

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This is a list of the manufacturers and dates of the type of pouch with snap on back:

 

1. J.Q.M.D. 1942

2. LAIRD SCHOBER 1943

3. HOFF 1943

4. ARNOLD MFG CO 1944

5. BOYT USMC 1945

6. UPDIKE 1943

7. S. FROEHLICH CO. 1943

8. G & R C. 1943

9. PARFAIT 1943

10. R.B. HANSON MFG CO. 1942, 1944

11. VICTORY 1943

12. J.S.&S. CO. 1943

13. M & H CO. 1943

14. H. st. CO. 1943

15. HAV.STCH CO. 1943

16. B.B.S. CO. 1943

17. BISCANE TENT & AWNING CO. 1943

18. RUBON K.C. 1942

19. ATLAS MFG CO. 1943

20. G.B. CO. 1943

21. AIRTRESS MIDLAND 1944

22. S & F CO. 1943

23. WALTER E ALLEN 1944

24. CHAROLETT TENT & AWNING CO. 1943

25. APPLETON AWNING SHOP 1943

26. SACO-MOC.SHOE CO. 1943

27. D.M. SHOE CO. 1943

28. B.B. INC 1943

29. KADIN 1943

30. T.F.S. CO, 1943

31. ATLAS AWNING 1943

Correct:

26. SACO-MOC.SHOE CO. 1942 and 1943

 

Add:

32. GEN. S. CORP. 1943

 

Best regards

Greg

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I went through all my carbine pouches,and I can only add a few to this list-I have most of those listed in that list,although mine might be a year earlier or later that that list.

BTW, I found my Walter E. Allen 1943 pouch,and it is exactly as the first poster's one. Like all my other pouches,I bought it years ago for $5-$8, when there were piles of unissued ones at gunshows and militaria shows,and the idea of a "reproduction" one would have been laughable. I left all my British-Made and USMC pouches off my list,and I never bought one later that 1945,so I have no Korean-war vintage ones.

 

Pouches with snaps on back:

 

Midwest Duck and Canvas 1944

 

Appleton Awning Shop 1943

 

Hamlin Canvas Goods Co. 1943

 

 

Belt-loop type:

 

Pittsburg Garter Co. 1944

 

Camlin Fashion of America 1943

 

Luce Mfg. 1944 ( the other list misspells it as "Fuce"

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kfields & boyt44,

 

You do have very good lists of those pouches -- congratulations.

 

I would add one more pouch to your lists in their snaps on back sections -- Boyt 44 OD#7

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kfields & boyt44,

 

You do have very good lists of those pouches -- congratulations.

 

I would add one more pouch to your lists in their snaps on back sections -- Boyt 44 OD#7

 

yes,I have a Boyt 43 in OD#3,and a Boyt44 in OD#7-otherwise identical,as you might expect.

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Great info posted here guys. It's too bad it will get buried in all the posts. I guess it could allways be brought up in a search. How long do old posts get saved for? Are they archived?

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They are saved forever or so far anyway. Eventually they will be merged into the thread already in the reference section about these ammo pouches.

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