maddog1129 Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share #51 Posted July 30, 2010 The large 7-inch wide chevrons are worn on Dress Gray and Full Dress Gray. The dress gray are "subdued" black on gray. The full dress gray are gold lace on a gray backing. The USMA is the only Army institution remaining which still uses chevrons to designate officers, though in the early 19th C. it was common in the Regular Army as well. Here are a pair of subdued Dress Gray chevrons. The 5 bars signify Battaliion Commander, a very high-ranking cadet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share #52 Posted July 30, 2010 Another pair, full color gold lace for full dress gray. Again, 5-bar battalion commander pair. In this variation, the point of the chevron is not as tall as in some other examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share #53 Posted August 1, 2010 New bullion blazer patch today, class of 1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share #54 Posted August 4, 2010 A new Recondo patch today. this one has had a clutchback device added and another layer of fabric sewn on the back. I wasn't expecting that! This is an older-looking color, OD or darkish brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share #55 Posted August 10, 2010 Another new USMA recondo patch. this one looks fairly contemporary, a bit green rather than tan, although the photo doesn't show the color truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share #56 Posted August 17, 2010 New bullion class blazer patch, an old one from 1943 woo hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share #57 Posted August 17, 2010 I got two new USMAPS tabs the other day. One is 1960's or earlier, the r/w/b one. I'm intending to marry the USMA Prep tabs to some patches. I had to use one of my felt cadre patches to match up as best I could on the R/W/B one. I tried to match the edge color as well as I could for the black/gray/gold f/c one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share #58 Posted August 17, 2010 Plus a couple of new acquisitions from Proud Kraut's (Lars's) recent sale: embroidered cadre patch from 1960's/earlier (r/w/b) and a full color older cut edge cadre patch (1960's/later) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cszakolczai Posted August 17, 2010 Share #59 Posted August 17, 2010 where do you find all these class blazer patches? I'd expect them to be really hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share #60 Posted August 17, 2010 where do you find all these class blazer patches? I'd expect them to be really hard to find. I troll eBay quite a bit. That's where I have found them, but you have to be patient cuz they are rare and don't come up that often. I hesitated starting that part of the collection because once you start it could be endless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKNYC71 Posted September 2, 2010 Share #61 Posted September 2, 2010 This is a wonderful thread. I love USMA related material. I live in NYC and often go with my wife for brunch at the Thayer hotel with friends in the Academy. I have often visited the Academy museum and admired the early West Point uniforms. Does anyone have any early (pre-WWII) USMA related insignia and/or uniforms to show. I seem to rememeber a website which displayed a very early (pre-Civil War) cadet coat, but I can not remember which site it was. Cheers, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05B4S Posted September 2, 2010 Share #62 Posted September 2, 2010 USMA jump ovals. Some West Point cadets qualified for air training in WWII and the early 1950's, but not after the USAFA was established in 1955. These ovals don't appear to me to date from the WWII era, so may be replicas. I'm not certain. That's incorrect, USMA sends cadets to the Basic Airborne Course at Ft Benning every year. Google "west point cadets attend airborne school" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share #63 Posted September 3, 2010 That's incorrect, USMA sends cadets to the Basic Airborne Course at Ft Benning every year. Google "west point cadets attend airborne school" Oh, thanks for the info I assumed it was related to flight training when they had such AT West Point (Stewart Field, iirc). They get a specific "West Point" jump oval for a summer course at Ft. Benning? Good to know. I have seen a lot of cadet uniforms with air assault badges but nothing current with jump ovals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05B4S Posted September 4, 2010 Share #64 Posted September 4, 2010 Oh, thanks for the info I assumed it was related to flight training when they had such AT West Point (Stewart Field, iirc). They get a specific "West Point" jump oval for a summer course at Ft. Benning? Good to know. I have seen a lot of cadet uniforms with air assault badges but nothing current with jump ovals. The oval and flash are listed as USMA Airborne Detachment which I assume is regular Army Airborne personnel assigned to West Point. Airborne Detachment HHC, 1-1 IN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share #65 Posted September 4, 2010 05B4S said: The oval and flash are listed as USMA Airborne Detachment which I assume is regular Army Airborne personnel assigned to West Point. Airborne Detachment HHC, 1-1 IN. The airborne detachment serving West Point, the regular Army folks, I thought had the oval that is in post #2, which is different from the one shown in that post, which I thought was earned by cadets. I will go back and look in some of my books to see if I can find anything further. I'm pretty confused, so appreciate your input ETA: Oh, and I am assuming your letters/numbers are from a reference work? can you elucidate for the uninitiated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05B4S Posted September 4, 2010 Share #66 Posted September 4, 2010 maddog1129 said: The airborne detachment serving West Point, the regular Army folks, I thought had the oval that is in post #2, which is different from the one shown in that post, which I thought was earned by cadets. I will go back and look in some of my books to see if I can find anything further. I'm pretty confused, so appreciate your input ETA: Oh, and I am assuming your letters/numbers are from a reference work? can you elucidate for the uninitiated? Oops, my mistake for not looking back before posting. Here's a thought, based on the WAG system, perhaps (if it is in fact a cadet item) is/was worn by the USMA Parachute Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share #67 Posted September 4, 2010 05B4S said: Oops, my mistake for not looking back before posting. Here's a thought, based on the WAG system, perhaps (if it is in fact a cadet item) is/was worn by the USMA Parachute Team. That would make sense. Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share #68 Posted September 5, 2010 A new patch, a bit unusual shape, naming the Black Knights team and showing the Army Mule mascot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntzman Posted September 5, 2010 Share #69 Posted September 5, 2010 Maddog Outstanding Collection !!!!!!!!! Ranger Thanks for adding your items as well !!!!! I never knew the USMA had so much stuff. Thanks for a very informative thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share #70 Posted October 4, 2010 A new patch, for the Second Airborne Detachment assigned to West Point. Front and back of patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share #71 Posted October 4, 2010 Maddog Outstanding Collection !!!!!!!!! Ranger Thanks for adding your items as well !!!!! I never knew the USMA had so much stuff. Thanks for a very informative thread. Thank you Huntzman. appreciate your comments! Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share #72 Posted October 4, 2010 More recently acquired 1950's and earlier cadre red/white/blue shoulder sleeve patches. Three different kinds: full embroidered, felt, and twill. the full embroidered version does not include any eyeholes in the greek helmet. backs of the r/w/b cadre patches: felt, full embroidered, and twill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted October 10, 2010 Author Share #73 Posted October 10, 2010 Here is a patch version of the blue and gold cadre collar device, and just about the same size as the DUI shields. This poor little patch has seen better days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share #74 Posted January 16, 2011 Some new USMA patches to share: here is a skeet club patch; also what I was told was a skeet&trap instructor patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1129 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share #75 Posted January 16, 2011 This looks to me like a souvenir patch, Army Mule for a fan of the athletic teams. I think this is an older item, before they updated to the "Black Knights" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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