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This one came as bars only which I mounted to an unnamed GCM - CSC 35175 (No name yet) came with USN Cuban Pac 824 and USN Mexico 8870.

 

Any assistance ID'ing this Sailor would be very helpful

 

Bill

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Kaigun Shosa

Hey Shawn,

Wow! You found all of that info just by his engraving. I'm glad you were able to find this info and share it here on the forum. If I need a Private Detective, I'll let you know. Ha..

Yeah, hopefully we will be able to get back to Rio Hondo next month! I too, don't do zoom call.

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On 5/16/2021 at 6:30 PM, Kaigun Shosa said:

My most recent acquisition. A 6 bar NGCM to William M. Shoemaker.  CSC: 6408

Medal dated 7 Mar 1888 (USS Pensacola)

1st Bar: 7 Mar 1891 (USS Pensacola)

2nd Bar: 29 Jan 1894 (USS Ranger)

3rd Bar: 19 Apr 1897 (USS Montgomery)

4th Bar: 21 Apr1900 (USS Montgomery)

5th Bar: 6 Oct 1904 (USS Alabama)

6th Bar: 6 Oct 1908 (USS Franklin)

 

Since he was on the USS Montgomery during the Spanish American war, I'm assuming he is entitled to the 1898 West Indies campaign and a Sampson Medal? 

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This is one hell of a sweet medal. Shoemaker is list in the Sampson Medal book as a Chief Yeoman on the USS Montgomery. You'll need to access his service file in St. Louis in order to find documentation on his West Indies Medal and any other campaign medals.

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William Samuel Sivel was born in Pennsylvania in 1887 passed away 1944 in California. He served roughly from 1917 to 1938. What’s interesting is he took his original good conduct and had it reengraved with most if not all the ship’s he served on and stations he served at.

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Back:
Good conduct medal
Wm. Saml. Sivel CEM
Service No. 1925400
C.S.C. No. 67197
USS Prairie
USN training sta. S.D. Cal
USS Omaha
USS V-1 sub
USS V-3 sub
USS 41 sub
USS hale 133
USS Tenn.
USS Altair

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Rim:
USS destroyer base San Diego Cal
USS Chandler 206
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On 5/24/2021 at 12:52 PM, USMCR79 said:

This one came as bars only which I mounted to an unnamed GCM - CSC 35175 (No name yet) came with USN Cuban Pac 824 and USN Mexico 8870.

 

Any assistance ID'ing this Sailor would be very helpful

 

Bill

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CSC 35175 2.JPG

 

 

Bill,  Do you mind posting scans of the back of the four bars?   IDing this sailor should be doable with the muster roll and/or ship's log for USS Duncan, a Cassin class destroyer with 5 officers and 98 men in commission from 8/30/13 to 10/24/14 and then 1/22/16 to 8/1/22.  I'm guessing the date of the Duncan bar is between 1916 and 22, based on being the sole newer pin back bar and being on top as last in.   The muster roll and ship's log for the date engraved on the back, which should be his end of enlistment, should be recorded with his name and CSC# 35175.   My mustang great-uncle whose name-engraved WWI sword, scabbard, gold monogrammed '21 Elgin and medals (Mine Laying) I'm happy as a clam to own,  was a plank owner at Boston on Duncan until her first decommissioning in 1914 and earned his crow as a QM3c on Duncan.   IMO worth doing the research yourself in DC or hiring someone to do it, since you'd not just be IDing the GCM bars but probably the Cuban and Mexico medals which certainly bumps their historic and monetary value.   Also increase your chances to find the medal since a name is a lot better than just a five digit number.  Good luck.

 

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3 hours ago, Sweazy21 said:

William Samuel Sivel was born in Pennsylvania in 1887 passed away 1944 in California. He served roughly from 1917 to 1938. What’s interesting is he took his original good conduct and had it reengraved with most if not all the ship’s he served on and stations he served at.

Back:
Good conduct medal
Wm. Saml. Sivel CEM
Service No. 1925400
C.S.C. No. 67197
USS Prairie
USN training sta. S.D. Cal
USS Omaha
USS V-1 sub
USS V-3 sub
USS 41 sub
USS hale 133
USS Tenn.
USS Altair
Rim:
USS destroyer base San Diego Cal
USS Chandler 206









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  Sweazy, that sure ain't a GI good conduct planchet, but cool as heck.    Reminds me of rice writing.  If the engraver charged by the letter, it took a chunk of change to do that.    

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1 hour ago, aerialbridge said:

 

 

Bill,  Do you mind posting scans of the back of the four bars?   IDing this sailor should be doable with the muster roll and/or ship's log for USS Duncan, a Cassin class destroyer with 5 officers and 98 men in commission from 8/30/13 to 10/24/14 and then 1/22/16 to 8/1/22.  I'm guessing the date of the Duncan bar is between 1916 and 22, based on being the sole newer pin back bar and being on top as last in.   The muster roll and ship's log for the date engraved on the back, which should be his end of enlistment, should be recorded with his name and CSC# 35175.   My mustang great-uncle whose name-engraved WWI sword, scabbard, gold monogrammed '21 Elgin and medals (Mine Laying) I'm happy as a clam to own,  was a plank owner at Boston on Duncan until her first decommissioning in 1914 and earned his crow as a QM3c on Duncan.   IMO worth doing the research yourself in DC or hiring someone to do it, since you'd not just be IDing the GCM bars but probably the Cuban and Mexico medals which certainly bumps their historic and monetary value.   Also increase your chances to find the medal since a name is a lot better than just a five digit number.  Good luck.

 

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I don't have scans but here is the info:

 

USS Duncan CSC35175 September 1, 1917

 

Navy Yard Norfolk CSC35175 August 4, 1919

 

USS Rochester CSC35175 May 5, 1921

 

Receiving Barracks Hampton Roads CSC35175 May 5, 1925

 

Thanks for the assist

 

Bill

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CorsairAce

Here’s a grouping for Henry Grosmick Jr. The Good Conduct is engraved for the receiving station US Navy Yard Philadelphia and dated October 1, 1924. There’s also a USS Camden and 1932 bars. The WWI Victory medal has a Grand Fleet bar, but the great thing about this medal is the rim is engraved with his name. The second Nicaraguan campaign medal is numbered M No. 6457. 
 

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Here’s a single medal engraved “George L. Crain, USS Wilmington Sept 14, 1912”. The bar says “Des Moines”. 
 

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Hello all - I was just contacted by this fellow who has a USN Good Conduct Medal named to a sailor on the Submarine S-33 in 1930. He says he also has the guy's personnel records showing he was on the Squalis when it sank in 1939.  I'm not actively collecting right now and my knowledge of correct vs incorrectly engraved US Medals is hovering around 0%. If people want to contact him I can message you his email and phone number.

 

 

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Are the chirping crickets to be interpreted as a thumbs-down on the engraving for this medal?

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Sweazy21
Are the chirping crickets to be interpreted as a thumbs-down on the engraving for this medal?

I see no issues with this medal


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Thanks Sweazy - Maybe I'll just suggest to him to post it on the Facebook Group "US Military Collectibles 'Make Offer' Page"

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BeansEnHay

Arsenic Presa, USS Pittsburgh, 19 Apr 1913

Messman/Mess Attendant 1st cl.

born: San Francisco de Malabon, Cavite, Phillipines 14 Dec 1888

Presa was born near the site of the Battle of Manila Bay, and the US Naval base at Cavite, P.I.

He enlisted in the US Navy 20 Apr 1909.

He qualified for the Mexican Service medal, and made the qualifying period for the WW1 Victory medal by 2 weeks.

ETS: 19 Apr 1917. His campaign medals came with the GCM

he later worked as an Ironworker, and as a Janitor at the San Diego US Marine Recruit Depot.  He died in 1960

at San Diego, and is buried at Fort Rosecrans National cemetery.

USS Pittsburgh (ACR-4) was renamed in 1913 from USS Pennsylvania.  An Armored Cruiser launched in 1903, she patrolled Mexican waters in 1913 and 1914.

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On 8/22/2021 at 11:48 AM, BeansEnHay said:

Arsenio Presa, USS Pittsburgh, 19 Apr 1913

Messman/Mess Attendant 1st cl.

born: San Francisco de Malabon, Cavite, Phillipines 14 Dec 1888

Presa was born near the site of the Battle of Manila Bay, and the US Naval base at Cavite, P.I.

He enlisted in the US Navy 20 Apr 1909.

He qualified for the Mexican Service medal, and made the qualifying period for the WW1 Victory medal by 2 weeks.

ETS: 19 Apr 1917. His campaign medals came with the GCM

he later worked as an Ironworker, and as a Janitor at the San Diego US Marine Recruit Depot.  He died in 1960

at San Diego, and is buried at Fort Rosecrans National cemetery.

USS Pittsburgh (ACR-4) was renamed in 1913 from USS Pennsylvania.  An Armored Cruiser launched in 1903, she patrolled Mexican waters in 1913 and 1914.

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Stephen Alexander Petrovich was born in Masontown, Pennsylvania on November 5, 1912. He joined the Navy on April 1, 1931. Over the next decade, he saw service on various ships. In September 1941, he was assigned to the USS Pelias a submarine tender that had been commissioned just a few days earlier. After shakedown on the East Coast, it left for the Pacific the following month. The Pelias made a short stop in San Diego before heading to Hawaii. Stephen and his crew mates arrived at Pearl Harbor on November 5 and over the following month the ship did sub overhauls at the Submarine Base. 
On Dec. 7th, she was berthed during the attack and members of her crew manned the guns. One enemy torpedo plane was downed into the water, and a second was damaged as they made their runs along the main channel little more than 100 yards from her port side. After the attack, they resumed repair duties then left for San Francisco in late May 1942. After arriving in San Francisco, ship was resupplied with spare parts, provisions, and ammunition. In mid June, the Pelias left for Departing for Melbourne, Australia arriving on July 16th. About a week later reaching Albany, where she was assigned to duty under Rear Admiral Charles A. Lockwood, ComSubSoWesPac. They refitted the 10 submarines of Submarine Squadron 6 at Albany before shifting her base to Fremantle in Western Australia on 27th of October. Stephen was then transferred off the Pelias in early October. He served aboard the USS GAR and USS Arethusa over the next two years. 
I’m not entirely sure how long he stayed in the Navy at this time, but now he served until at least 1950. Stephen passed away in 1994 in San Diego California.

 

With this one being dated 1941 there is about a decade from his enlistment. Maybe he wasn’t such a nice guy in the beginning or maybe there is a second medal? Unfortunately without the archives that will remain a secret. 
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Charles Good was born in Dayton, Ohio on May 16, 1891. He enlisted in the Navy in 1909 and served are various ships until 1927. In August 1927, he was transferred to the Naval reserves. His career continued in the reserves until June 1941, at which point he re-joined the Navy. During the war, he recruited for the WAVES. Charles was officially retired by the end of 1945. He passed away December 23, 1964. 

 

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