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CAPTMac Thank you for posting.<br />I know there are other forum members with similar pre 41 badges in there collections. Any chance of posting them here.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />Graham<br /><br />

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Hello

I saw these pictures and remembered this topic.

 

They are from the 1917 USN uniform & insignia.

 

https://plus.google.com/photos/105861955697485892280/albums/5908649064066966785?banner=pwa

 

Michael

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Aide de Camp collar insignia ( Army, USAF, USMC )

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White House Service badge and certificate
Presidential Service and Vice Presidential Service badges and certificates
Army Staff (former General Staff) badge, certificate and collar insignia, DoD and JCS badges
Aide de Camp collar insignia ( Army, USAF, USMC )

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I'm searching for my collection:
White House Service badge and certificate
Presidential Service and Vice Presidential Service badges and certificates
Army Staff (former General Staff) badge, certificate and collar insignia, DoD and JCS badges
Aide de Camp collar insignia ( Army, USAF, USMC )

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Harrier- Very, very, very nice!!!!

Only a weak society needs government protection or intervention before it pursues its resolve to preserve the truth. Truth needs neither handcuffs nor a badge for its vindication. -Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy

Peace is not the absence of war, but the defense of hard-won freedom. -Anton LaGuardia


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Here are some photos of one I had the opportunity to handle while visiting a family for my book. I thought you all would like to see images of it...a truly beautiful piece! Best of all, there was a fantastic photo of her dad wearing it in 1940.

 

 

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And the reverse...

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Just rediscovered this thread. Harrier, love the BBB. Dave I have been trying to compare the one you posted with the 'repro' one in post 12 .......scary.

 

Thanks for posting.

 

Graham

 

Graham:

 

Or is it....."egg on my face"? They're identical...and the one I just posted literally came out of the box (I should have photographed the box it was in) in the box of all the lady's father's stuff...together with a photo of him wearing it. Perhaps the fake was based off this one? The big question would be...I can't tell you what's on the backside of the reproduction one...so what IS on the backside of the reproduction one that it would set it apart from a real one? That is the question...

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Dave,

 

Yes, I was confused by your previous post concerning the device shown in post #12. The eagle shown was in fact right facing, not left, as the description you mentioned when discussing the fakes was with left-facing eagles.

 

I would like to mention that, with the dual H-H / Viking hallmarks, the item most likely was post-WW2 to Korean War era vintage and not pre-WW2.

 

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Tim

 

Sorry for the confusion! I meant the eagle facing IT'S left...or the viewer's right.

 

As far as the hallmarks go, I have a photo of the vet wearing the above eagle from 1941... It would be strange to me that they were making non-reg hat devices in the 1950s...

 

Dave

Only a weak society needs government protection or intervention before it pursues its resolve to preserve the truth. Truth needs neither handcuffs nor a badge for its vindication. -Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy

Peace is not the absence of war, but the defense of hard-won freedom. -Anton LaGuardia


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Hi Dave,

 

Absolutely, it's the "wearer's" perspective as to the direction the eagle is facing. As the eagle is worn on the left side of the garrison cap, the eagle would be facing forward or...towards the wearer's right (appears facing left when looking at the device straight on).

 

So, the example shown in post #12 is fake by virtue of the eagle facing in the wrong direction, which as you correctly stated, would NOT have been an authorized variation by the late 1940's or beyond.

 

Thanks for clarifying!

 

Tim

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Here is a left facing two piece brass WW1 Naval Officers ha badge. This is part of a Navy Cross group I have. I have seen bullion cap badges but this is the first all metal badge I have come across.The two piece badge is soldered together and measures 1 3/4 X 2 1/4 inches.

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Very nice and taking on a rich patina as well.

 

Congrats!

 

Tim

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Hello

here is a link to a left facing USN officer cap badge.

The silver device is stamped H-H !

 

http://www.historycalled.com/index.php/!trash/military-iyt/bad/world-war-one-us-navy-officers-cap-badge/

 

Someone from this forum could save and post this 3 pictures ? ( not possible with my iPad )

 

Thanks

HAVE A NICE DAY

Michael

I'm searching for my collection:
White House Service badge and certificate
Presidential Service and Vice Presidential Service badges and certificates
Army Staff (former General Staff) badge, certificate and collar insignia, DoD and JCS badges
Aide de Camp collar insignia ( Army, USAF, USMC )

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