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I have been told by fellow forum member that the small size badge for the officers overseas cap can be found with the eagles head facing the wearers left in pre 1941 fashion. Can anyone post any pics ?

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I used to have some that looked exactly like Kurt's that were made by Pasquale.

 

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Mine aren't hallmarked. Were yours?

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Mine were hallmarked. They were open catch pinback.

 

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Thanks Kurt Well I,ll be #@~#erd I thought the small ones for the overseas cap came out late in ww2. I notice one of yours has loops for sewing ? I take it these are for wear on the overseas cap ?

I could have sworn I had seen 2 large pre 41 badges [metal] on ebay maybe a year or two ago, so they may be reproducing something that never existed in the first place. :think: I had wonderd why they were so hard to come by :lol:

 

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Thanks Kurt Well I,ll be #@~#erd I thought the small ones for the overseas cap came out late in ww2. I notice one of yours has loops for sewing ? I take it these are for wear on the overseas cap ?

I could have sworn I had seen 2 large pre 41 badges [metal] on ebay maybe a year or two ago, so they may be reproducing something that never existed in the first place. :think: I had wonderd why they were so hard to come by :lol:

 

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From my research, the reason the eagles head was turned to the right in the first place was because the Navy decided to make the officers hat badge in full size in metal as the bullion ones were hard to maintain (tarnish). during the process of casting dies to strik them, it was determined that a left facing eagle was not a good thing and the head was turned.

 

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Here's one of the large visor hat sized pre-1941 devices in metal that's currently on eBay. The back's hallmarked H&H and Viking.

 

 

Unfortunately, this one is fake. About 15 years ago, quite a number of metal left-facing full sized cap eagles were produced. I remember Manions had quite a few and were selling them for (as I recall) $20 a pop. I had always wanted one and commenting on this to a major dealer, he told me about them being copies. Not intentionally out-to-screw-folks copies, but were still copies nonetheless.

 

I have never seen a left facing metal full sized eagle that was original. I have seen a handful of left-facing small sized metal eagles, but never full sized. I would love to add one to my collection if I could ever find one.

 

Hope that helps!

 

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Well, at least it's posted for a reference then. I don't collect these, but I found it while browsing eBay today and remembered this thread.

 

No worries! I'm GLAD you posted it! Hopefully it will prevent someone from losing their shirt!

 

Realistically, if I could find one for around $50, even knowing it's a fake, I'd still like one for my hat (the one I actually wear in uniform). I seriously considered bidding on this one, actually!

 

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Estate fresh too !!!! :think:

 

 

Riiight...from the dealer's house...er...estate!

 

It's like a dealer I once knew who claimed every uniform/medal/etc. he sold was "straight from the vet". Come to find out that HE had been in the service (I think in the National Guard) during the 80s and thus...drum roll...HE was the vet! He wasn't lying, but he sure wasn't telling the truth...

 

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I have a lovely full size pre WW II cap device in metal. If anyone wants detailed photos, please let me know.

 

 

Yes, please!!

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I have a lovely full size pre WW II cap device in metal. If anyone wants detailed photos, please let me know.

Absolutely!

I'd enjoy seeing it too!!

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Here is a full sizes metal cap device from Pre 1941 uniform change.

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Very nice!!! Can you post up a photo of the reverse?

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