hawkdriver Posted December 21, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 21, 2009 http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Ch...erfeiting-Ring/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted December 21, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 21, 2009 Thanks for that link. It's worth looking through the photos to get an idea of the scale of that one operation. Here's a couple of the two dozen photos shown there: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted December 21, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 21, 2009 I used to work at an antique store. Coin collectors are ANAL!!! and thumb noses at non-coin guys, even the clerks! hated dealing with most of them. of course there were exceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgawne Posted December 22, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 22, 2009 But... If you catch anyone importing or selling them in the USA it - IS - specififcally against the law. And the law enforcement folks will take notice. Same with stamps and political memoribilia. Whereas if they bring in fake hitler's pants, you might be able to get your money under generic fraud laws, but probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLO Posted December 22, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 22, 2009 you can buy those in chinatown , San Francisco for $3.oo each vendors set up tables and sell them to tourists, they feel lighter than a real silver dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted December 22, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 22, 2009 The metal in those coins looks a bit substandard... of course that could be remedied with with some silver plating. Another friend of mine sent me an article on these... it just shows anything can be repro'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 22, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 22, 2009 When I was in Oman, I thought I struck the JACKPOT...an entire bucket full of old Russian, European and American coins. Until I realized that there were hundreds of the same coins...ouch! Boy, did they look good though. If there had only been one or two of them there, I probably would have bought them on a whim for $20 or so. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne-Hunter Posted December 22, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 22, 2009 This has been a problem for quite a while now. To tell a fake from a real is not that hard in most cases. If a magnet attracts :thumbdown: rust :thumbdown: wrong weight :thumbdown: poor details/strike/similar :thumbdown: errors such as wrong dates :thumbdown: These are just a few common things to keep in mind and while not always true, many who are in the coin industry know that they are true more often than not. Best ABN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kekoaiki Posted December 22, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 22, 2009 Thanks when I go to China on my next trip I'll make sure I take a picture. Man they are good in producing repo's they have make anything look old. Thanks for the tip Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkdriver Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted December 22, 2009 Ya, but just like the militaria, they are getting better and better. Some day, you may not be so easy to discern. I feel sorry for the novice collector, they are the ones that will pay the price, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLO Posted December 22, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 22, 2009 Ive been seeing coin dealers and others at the monthly ANTIQUE FAIR selling these FAKE coins they pretend they dont know and play dumb and try to sell as originals , they usually want $25 and up for these pieces of junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vzemke Posted December 22, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 22, 2009 The Bazaars set up for Soldiers here in Afghanistan are filled with fake coins like that. All of the ones I've seen here don't appear to be silver and are certainly fake. I have several real Morgan silver dollars at home that my Grandmother gave me several years ago, and there is really no comparison. As stated earlier, they feel lighter (much ligher) and if you've handled a real one you can tell as soon as you pick it up. Also, just like many fake wings, the details just don’t come out as good in the reproductions. But many people have been duped by them. Vance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo Posted December 22, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 22, 2009 Looking at the pics of the coin shops that were posted reminds me of the shops in Vietnam selling all the fake SOG patches, uniforms, etc. Pretty scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted December 22, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 22, 2009 Gee, I'm glad I collect helmets and not coins! No one's faking those... yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted December 22, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 22, 2009 it is against the law to reproduce u.s. paper and coinage--- yes--- so if any of this junk is here in the u.s. they are doomed right???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted December 22, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 22, 2009 it is against the law to reproduce u.s. paper and coinage--- yes--- so if any of this junk is here in the u.s. they are doomed right???????????? Sure, with all of the cuts in government budgets, I bet these are low priority. Sad and not unlike those repro MOH's we are starting to see on E-Bay. I'm sure we aren't even scratching the surface..... -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkdriver Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted December 22, 2009 it is against the law to reproduce u.s. paper and coinage--- yes--- so if any of this junk is here in the u.s. they are doomed right???????????? Gotta pay for this 14 Trillion dollar debt somehow!! :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankman45 Posted December 23, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 23, 2009 Gotta pay for this 14 Trillion dollar debt somehow!! :w00t: Isn't that the truth! Although, I'd rather have fake coins pay my taxes than my checkbook. I think this just demonstrates that people will monopolize on items people put any kind of substantial value on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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