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Thanks guys:)

Yes Mike Im glad that I could find one example:)

It have a WW2 contract N288 at the metal clip. It is easy to recognize A-6B penlight from WW2 becouse they have smaller metal clip than post war version and of course different signatures like: PROPRTY US NAVY or PROPERTY AF US ARMY(if I remember correct about AF example)

 

The best regards,

Jerry

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After having both the USN Penlight and the Army Air Force Penlight with its box I forgot the N288 was on the metal clip of the Navy penlight. I really tried to find you a WW II USN Penlight but only post war penlights were coming up for sale.

Alright Jerry so what are you looking for now for your collection?

 

 

 

Thanks guys:)

Yes Mike Im glad that I could find one example:)

It have a WW2 contract N288 at the metal clip. It is easy to recognize A-6B penlight from WW2 becouse they have smaller metal clip than post war version and of course different signatures like: PROPRTY US NAVY or PROPERTY AF US ARMY(if I remember correct about AF example)

 

The best regards,

Jerry

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Jerry,

seeing your collection from time to time almost makes me want to start collecting again. The only thing left to sell in my WW II Aviation collection of 17years is a WW II USN B-24 pilot's grouping and some original Hollywood Canteen Postcards with some signed from movie stars a local 8th AF veteran danced with during the war and had signed.

I'm not completely out of collecting because I'm collecting WW II P-38 Lightning memorabilia which won't be as overwhelming as having 2 rooms in my home set up like a museum. I'm including here a couple pictures of my hallway in my home with some of my P-38 Lightning memorabilia of which I've added a couple more items since this picture was taken and I also have trench art and etc in my den.

The wood sign in the second picture was made and given to me, for no charge, from the owner of Flightlinefabrications.com because I had got to fly in the P-38 Lightning called 23 Skidoo, nice sign and nice guy, huh? He has really neat items for sale on his web site.post-9389-1322707792.jpgpost-9389-1322707830.jpg

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Hi Mike.

Thanks for words. I remember photos of Your old collection with two manequins, You had some nice stuff included USN seat type parachute and very nice headgear items and many many more:) Your modern room looks awsome, I like all of this Aircraft pictures in frame and some pilot photos! In free time you can post photos of WW II USN B-24 pilot's grouping ? I would like to see it:)

Wow which items Im looking for now ? List is long like hell:(((( I would like to find WW2 USN shark chaser to my manequin...

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Jerry

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Nice photos Franck and Dark:)

 

The second pilot impression looks like have a e 37-A-17 throat mic. It was part of the USMC contract sound powered phones used by Marine artillery crews and it is not aviation item. Another collector myth/item about which we can read in two books including Naval Aviation subject. But for bad luck this item was'nt used by USN or USMC pilots:(((

I think in 44/45 the fighter pilot used more A-14 oxygen mask with mic. inside than any type of throat mic.

 

 

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Jerry

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I see you have the sharp eye!

Difficult to be categorical about this microphone. Indeed, in times of war, especially on aircraft carriers, all types of material could be diverted for other purposes. Indeed there is no evidence that could be used but also there is no evidence to the contrary. I personally have a microphone manufacturing civil but was repackaged with a catch "army" warning of a single lot of a pilot USN WWII.

The best example is the helmet of "yellow dogs" largely hijacked by the pilots ... I do research in sense and I will come back to you....

Laurent

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Hi Guys.

Of course the 37-A-17 throat mic. could be used by Navy pilot. Would be nice to find any photo with this type of throat mic. The same like example of Wilson MKII goggle. But for now, I didnt see any proof photos or example( Wilson MKII goggle) with both items:(

For now this type of throat mic. is more for USMC sound powered phones than for pilots:( I know that a lot of people paied a lot of money for this mic. becouse it is in two books only:((((

Cant wait to see the M.mag with Yours article!

 

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Jerry

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I have to agree with you about the Microphone and would believe that if you needed a mic and this one worked, you'd use it and I have a friend who's uncle and his crew in the USAAF on B-17's, were, before they went overseas to be attached to the 8th AF, were issued USN flight helmets and they sewed their AAF leather name tags on the helmets and I've seen the helmets. There were AAF pilots and etc wearing Tanker jackets and RAF flight boots and I also have pictures of some P-38 pilots wearing the high top infantry buckle boots. I would just have to believe that if your in a combat zone where alot of times things weren't so regimentary especially on some islands in the PTO, you'd grab anything to use, if you needed it.

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see you have the sharp eye!

Difficult to be categorical about this microphone. Indeed, in times of war, especially on aircraft carriers, all types of material could be diverted for other purposes. Indeed there is no evidence that could be used but also there is no evidence to the contrary. I personally have a microphone manufacturing civil but was repackaged with a catch "army" warning of a single lot of a pilot USN WWII.

The best example is the helmet of "yellow dogs" largely hijacked by the pilots ... I do research in sense and I will come back to you....

Laurent

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Mike, You wouldn't happen to be talking about my Uncle and Great Uncle would you? :) Because I know he preferred the navy flight helmet over his AAF one.

 

Laurent

I have to agree with you about the Microphone and would believe that if you needed a mic and this one worked, you'd use it and I have a friend who's uncle and his crew in the USAAF on B-17's, were, before they went overseas to be attached to the 8th AF, were issued USN flight helmets and they sewed their AAF leather name tags on the helmets and I've seen the helmets. There were AAF pilots and etc wearing Tanker jackets and RAF flight boots and I also have pictures of some P-38 pilots wearing the high top infantry buckle boots. I would just have to believe that if your in a combat zone where alot of times things weren't so regimentary especially on some islands in the PTO, you'd grab anything to use, if you needed it.

 

Mike

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Hi Jordan,

your right, that's who I was talking about. The Navy in WW II seemed to have better clothes and helmets and etc then the other Services.

I reserved a table this weekend for the Olympic Flight Museum Military Show and Sale, are you going to be able to attend?

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

Mike, You wouldn't happen to be talking about my Uncle and Great Uncle would you? :) Because I know he preferred the navy flight helmet over his AAF one.
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Yep, I have a couple display tables reserved. I am bringing out my USAAF stuff that I have been hunting down the past 5 years. It will be my first public display for Air Corps items. I will see you there! Sounds like it is going to be a big show. (compared to years past).

 

And excellent navy items everyone! Once I get my bomber crewman display finished I would love to start a PTO pilot display!

 

 

Hi Jordan,

your right, that's who I was talking about. The Navy in WW II seemed to have better clothes and helmets and etc then the other Services.

I reserved a table this weekend for the Olympic Flight Museum Military Show and Sale, are you going to be able to attend?

 

Mike

Always Jeepin'

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Interested in USMC items WW2-Vietnam and WW2 USAAF items.

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Hello all,

Thank you Franck and Laurent for sharing your excellent impressions. It's always a pleasure to see your work.

 

I would have to agree that the 37-A-17 mic was not an aviation microphone and is not compatible with aviation radio equipment. It is, in fact, sound powered, not electrical, therefore there is no means to connect it to an aviation radio. If you happen to have an extension cord, or push-to-talk switch, for the RS-76 throat mic, you will see that although the connector looks similar, they are not compatible. The idea that this mic is aviation related started over twenty years ago when a collector acquired one from the effects of a Navy pilot veteran and made the natural assumption that it was aviation related. This information was then contributed to a well known reference book on flight helmets and repeated again in a more recent Naval Aviation reference book. Unfortunately, it would appear that neither author had any additional original sources to verify this as a Naval Aviation item. In the recent past, I have had examples of both the 37-A-17 and a USMC contract sound powered "talker's" headset and can confirm that they are truely compatible. Having paid a rather high price for a 37-A-17 myself, I was not too happy to make this discovery a few years ago. Best regards, Paul

 

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Hi Guys.

 

I didnt buy a lot of stuff in past months but was able to equip my manequin with great WW2 item: Shark Chaser. It is true WW2 version of S.C. The post war is a little bit different, stamps are bigger and arrows are in different shape. I had post war version in the past...

 

Enjoy,

Jerry

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