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I was wondering if anyone on here has any fully automatic weapons? Feel free to post pics and discuss their stats and shooting experiances. Any time period is welcome! :rolleyes:

I am looking for the following items to complete my Viet Nam helmet shells

 

- two helmet liners

(paratrooper or regular and would like WW2 to 1972)

 

-2 helmet covers

(OD or camo)

 

-2 chin strap assemblies

 

- 2 helmet bands or other interesting helmet accesories

 

 

Interested in collecting any 1901st Engineering Avaiation Battalion Items

Or items named to John H. Gallagher Jr.

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A class 3 license is not required to own class 3 weapons. If you can legally own a pistol, you meet the requirments to own a class 3 weapon if your state allows them. There's a lot more paperwork to it than a pistol, though.

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I was wondering if anyone on here has any fully automatic weapons? Feel free to post pics and discuss their stats and shooting experiances. Any time period is welcome! :rolleyes:

 

 

Because of the high value of the vast majority of NFA firearms most collectors will not post photos to an open forum such as this for security reasons. When you start dealing in firearms that on average are in the $15,000-$30,000 range your attitude about security changes a great deal.

 

As stated by Robinb with a clean record it is not hard for qualifing individuals to obtain transfers on a ATF Form 4. What most people refer to as a C3 license is actually a Special Occupational Tax ($500 per year) paid by FFL dealers allowing them to transfer NFA firearms.

 

Screaming Eagle - In one of the more recent issues of Small Arms Review was an article about entry level NFA firearms. In my opinon the best entry level NFA firearm is a tube gun Sten. These are running in the mid to low $3000s.

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Looking for original photos and other items from the First World War US 77th Infantry Division.

Also interested in BAR and M1917A1 BMG related items.

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David,

 

Sweet weapons. :drool2: Hey with the drug war over here in El Paso/Juarez Mexico, I could use a better home defense weapon. The 12 ga. with 00 buck is nice, but a reinforced livingroom M60 bunker would be better. :w00t:

 

Leigh....

"Pain is only Weakness Leaving the Body"

MSG Leigh E Smith Jr
US Army (Retired)

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David-don't know if you can post it here, but an audio track of MG42 firing would be awesome!!!

 

If you do a search on Youtube you can find videos of just about any firearm you want to hear -

 

My favorite -

 

I much prefer shooting my 28 over the M1A1.

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Also interested in BAR and M1917A1 BMG related items.

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Pretty much every belt fed machine gun built to date is derived from teh MG42, so I guess the germans had a few things right. :thumbsup:

 

 

Yeah no kidding. Our machine guns of today benefit from their technology. I wonder how much technology was recovered from the Germans that is being used today that we are unaware of where it came from? Kind of makes you think how much technology is still being classified and what it could do today if it where unclassified :think:

I am looking for the following items to complete my Viet Nam helmet shells

 

- two helmet liners

(paratrooper or regular and would like WW2 to 1972)

 

-2 helmet covers

(OD or camo)

 

-2 chin strap assemblies

 

- 2 helmet bands or other interesting helmet accesories

 

 

Interested in collecting any 1901st Engineering Avaiation Battalion Items

Or items named to John H. Gallagher Jr.

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:lol: I wish I was able to go first. I do not own any NFA weapons but would love to some day. Per the MG42 pictured above I did see on of those at a gun show last weekend and was able to hold it as well. What a beautiful weapon with alot of techonology! Very nice pics!

 

 

I had an MG42 about 25 years ago. Back in those days it was very difficult to find MG42 parts and it was worn out to start with giving me a lot of trouble. I picked this one up a few years ago and like it much better than the MG42 I had. 1941 manufacture, all matching. I have yet to have any problems shooting the MG34.

 

Still prefer Thompsons.

 

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Also interested in BAR and M1917A1 BMG related items.

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The class 3 guns are a hoot and they're easy enough to own here in Idaho if you can afford one. Several of my friends here have had sub-guns for several years and purchased them when they were a little less expensive and the only real cost now is just providing ammo for them. The picture is of the inside of a friends safe and the other is of my class 3 GEMTECH HALO can retrofitted to my Marlin .17 HMR, it's fairly quiet death to rock chucks out to a 100 yards or so.

 

 

 

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Ok here it is finally my M1914 fully functioning hotchkiss

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Here's a better pic of the M1914. It is fully functionable and is a 1916 manufacture all original parts, original 1915 bipod. Labor of love and the pinnacle of my USMC collection since they used these extensively throughout WWI.

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A good friend of mine had a 1914 Hotchkiss. He was the 3rd owner of the gun that was brought back from WW1 and later registered. The first being the govt. and second being the son registering in 68.

 

Unique piece of machinery and heavy. We shot it a couple times, but all the old ammo was finicky and usually had to be baked or torn apart to reload.

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damn that is cool! what's it sound like? do you have any youtube clips of it in action?

Terry

No have nothing regarding footage of firing it, it's a much slower rate of fire than what we are use to today 600 rounds a minute I believe? After it was fired I was working at a local museum in OKC that has one and began listening to some horror stories about firing older automatics and began to get too scared to do it again as I was afraid i'd blow the barrel out, my own safety was secondary of course, the weapon come first!

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Anyone know what the cheapest full auto firearm you can buy is?

Since this is a U.S. militaria forum, I suspect that a U.S. military Class 3 weapon would be desired. I believe that the Reising s.m.g. (M-50) is probably the cheapest submachine gun/machine gun available, with prices in the $3-5,000 range. Parts are getting scarce for these weapons and original 20-round magazines are selling (when you can find them) at "collector's" prices (in other words: REAL salty!)

 

The so-called "license" is really a transfer tax.

 

I wonder how many Thompsons, etc. are out there unregistered due to the Amnesty not being well publicized? I suspect that a number of DEWATS went unregistered. . . Hate to date myself and almost hate to remember the inexpensive DEWATS that were available: MP-44/45/StG-45 for $49.95; Thompson M1A-1s for $75; Thompson '28A1s for $95; Johnson M1941 lmgs for $59.95; M-3 "Grease Guns" for $49.95. . . Excuse me while I wipe the tears from my keyboard!

 

Chauchats were $9.95, now selling for $5,000 (if I recall). And, yes!, the Chauchat should be considered a U.S. military arm (World War I). BTW, although Common Wisdom really criticizes these weapons, some of that criticism may be unjustified. Oh! Don't forget the Hotchkiss, also a U.S. weapon!

 

I don't want to think about the current price for Lewis guns! If I recall, they were available as DEWATS for around $50 to 75. And drum magazines for this weapon were about $9.95!

 

If only Santa could bring us low priced, classic full autos -- even DEWATS!

 

Bob

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$9.95 for a Chauchat...really! I think I just had an MI!

 

The worst part of the whole process is not only the thousands of dollars for the weapon itself (my Cho-Cho so far has set me back $6K...D'oh...), just as much for spare parts and magazines, DEWAT to REWAT reactivation, but there is always the VERY LONG wait period the BATFE has to clear you to take possession of the gun. I'm 3.5 months and waiting. One friend of mine waited over 7 months to get possession of his 08/15...

Mark Headlee

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yeah and just wait till you see how fast the ammo goes. I always call my Thompson a very expensive money to noise converter. Got mine before the prices went crazy for just $2500.00 and I wish it was still that cheap. Once they really went crazy, I started to think twice about shooting it or using it for re-enacting. Those 5 figures are always running through the back of your head.

T. Bowers

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......but there is always the VERY LONG wait period the BATFE has to clear you to take possession of the gun. I'm 3.5 months and waiting. One friend of mine waited over 7 months to get possession of his 08/15...

 

 

There's the big advantage of being a dealer, my last transfer C3 to C3 was 8 days including the weekend.

 

Transfers are up approximately 80% in the last several years with the same staff levels to handle it. They have hired more examiners but others have retired so it is a continuing battle to keep the staffing level at an appropriate level. One thing driving the large number of transfers are suppressors which are an often over looked area when looking just at the numbers. The have the same transfer requirements as a MG.

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Looking for original photos and other items from the First World War US 77th Infantry Division.

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