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Ignorant airman-who-never-wore-a helmet-in-early-1960s reporting in - but, what the heck IS it about D-loop helmets that people around here keep talking down (so it seems?) about? :dunno:

 

They look "nice" to me :think:

 

If it's too long of a story, just delete this thread.

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The earliest WW2 Paratrooper steel helmets were called M2 helmets, and were basically an M1 style steel shell with instead of regular fixed bails, half moon or D-bails.

The idea was that the helmet being equipped with a special paratrooper liner with A-yokes and a chincup, the strap of the stell shell could be fastened around the rear of the head, hence the semi-circular loops on the shell...

 

SInce the bails extended below the rim of helmet considerably, they tended to break off easily and were often repaired with regular style fixed bails...

 

So M2 helmets with intact D-bails are RARE!!!!

 

Here are some pictures to illustrate the text...

 

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Johan,

 

Being a "newbie" on field gear thanks for the post. I know some stuff about airborne equipment but never understood the "D-Loops". So $2600 is a good price for that helmet?

 

Wow......I thought I was bad in griping about a pilot helmet in the $200 - $400 dollar range....with an O-2 mask. :blink: :pinch:

 

r/Gy

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SInce the bails extended below the rim of helmet considerably, they tended to break off easily and were often repaired with regular style fixed bails...

 

So M2 helmets with intact D-bails are RARE!!!!

Boy, did I ever get it wrong.

 

Thanks for the lesson.

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Johan,

 

Being a "newbie" on field gear thanks for the post. I know some stuff about airborne equipment but never understood the "D-Loops". So $2600 is a good price for that helmet?

 

Wow......I thought I was bad in griping about a pilot helmet in the $200 - $400 dollar range....with an O-2 mask. :blink: :pinch:

 

r/Gy

 

Some people would think it a bargain:

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=59156

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Hi

 

I think it was very cheap, if i had realised it would not go any higher i would have stayed up to bid.... DOUH.....

 

Compared to the one i was going to have a bid on a few weeks ago that finally sold for 46000Euros plus 23% Tax..... 2600 dollars is a bargin.....

 

Regards

 

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Isn't the above liner buckle a wire style which makes it post war?

 

Actually not. The liner is an Inland made model, modified to M1C configuration by adding TAN A-yokes and wire buckles (either brass or steel); one of the original 75.000 liners issued for AB use...

 

The model you are refering to was made by Westinghouse, with DARK A-yokes and more squarish wire buckles...

 

The liner in the M2 Helmet above is the one on the left in this picture

 

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A huge difference....

 

Johan

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Hello All,

 

I suppose this is in reference to the M2 shell that sold on Ebay recently for $2600. I was "stunned" to say the least.

 

A few years ago I was fortunate to obtain from a 11th AB WWII vet his uniforms that he had left. M42 jump suit, boots, 42 and 43 jacket, M1 fixed bail helmet, and his M2 helmet. Other items as well such as "wings", papers, etc. ALL uniform items name-taped and his name written in pencil in his helmets.

 

Just now realizing what a neat set I have. Too bad the 11th does not have the "fame" status of the European troopers. Oh, the vet was a Lt. in the 511th. did see combat in the Phillipines, and was in the occupation of Japan.

 

Wish I could figure out how to take photos and post them. My helmet is about a grade 2, was worn and saw use, but has liner with leather chin cup. Would like to share with the forum.

 

tankerman

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