dag Posted November 24, 2017 Share #826 Posted November 24, 2017 ... Now this would have been in Chapter 15 of Into the Blue Volume 3, fatigues to the ABU IF Schiffer would print it. They declined as sales for volume 2 was slow. I tried to convince them that this was an entirely different subject but... If you can email Schiffer's and ask when volume 3 will be out it would certainly help. Lt.Col. Shulz has sugested we cut it into two volumes WW2 USAAF to the last issue BEFORE thw Woodland. Then the next volume would be camoflauge. A thought. Thanks guys who have purchased 1 and 2. Hope they helped. I just sent my email to Shiffer inquiring about Volume three. Somehow I missed Mr. Young's post (above) and wish I had emailed the publisher even sooner. I own (and enjoy) the first two volumes, but am looking forward most to Vol. 3 on work uniforms. I encourage everyone else even remotely interested in this subject area to also do the same and contact Shiffer to publish this book. David U.S. Air Force 1979-1986 ... Served in the Air Force Communications CommandCollecting U.S. Military Uniform Buttons and U.S. Air Force Communications Patches. US Military Uniform Buttons Interesting Facts http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/173001-us-military-uniform-buttons-interesting-facts/ Wanted: USAF Communications patches (link below) https://docs.google....ZjgyZDc5NzFiOGE Link to post Share on other sites
firefighter Posted November 24, 2017 Share #827 Posted November 24, 2017 Some various photos from the 20 year career of one Joann Bolitho, USAF 1958-1978. o-1.jpg Graduation portrait as a 2nd Lieutenant 1958. ho-2.jpg Vietnam as a Captain circa 1967 tho-3.jpg Retirement portrait as a Lieutenant Colonel 1978 Interesting that she doesn't wear the NURSE career field badge below her flight nurse wings. Every nurse should have that badge and that as an 0-5 she still has the basic Flights Nurse wings.I would have thought at least a senior or master. ASMIC #1098 Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted November 25, 2017 Share #828 Posted November 25, 2017 How about the GI combat boots say in the 53-57 period, Brown was the standard color issue boot up till the late 56-ish September 1, 1956 (ref. DA Circular 670-5, July 1956), for the Army, and unlike the Marine Corps who had their own style issue boot, as well as web gear, the Air Force used Army stuff. I think it would stand to reason though that AF people directly assigned to Army combat units during the Korean War, that's in Korea, in combat 1950-53, would be wearing Army GI boots. Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy53 Posted December 2, 2017 Share #829 Posted December 2, 2017 Interesting that she doesn't wear the NURSE career field badge below her flight nurse wings. Every nurse should have that badge and that as an 0-5 she still has the basic Flights Nurse wings.I would have thought at least a senior or master. She's wearing flight nurse wings. Isn't that enough? Gotta understand the Air Force where wings, missile badges and jump wings said it all. Of course, I'm a former SP. When I left the career field, that badge (not the shield) said it all. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted December 3, 2017 Share #830 Posted December 3, 2017 A great depiction of the early 50s AF (1952) and with a coca cola theme. seems back in those days the depiction of service personal (and related military themes) with the drink was most popular. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted December 24, 2017 Share #831 Posted December 24, 2017 Now here's a couple of Airmen outfitted as Infantry for a march or field problem of some kind, to include M1 Garands, this is in the 50s but unsure where, maybe Germany? too bad we can't tell what color their GI boots are, Brown or Black. Note too how one has his boots bloused, while the other, the Air Policeman doesn't, with this one, if you zoom really close to his boots, it seems he has a modified zipper pair. Link to post Share on other sites
Bluehawk Posted December 24, 2017 Share #832 Posted December 24, 2017 That looks a lot like our 1963 era fatigue shirt (Lackland issue), but I don't recall the buttons being covered... maybe they were though. Seems like TI Thacker was often yelling at us about our buttons, so maybe he could see them unbuttoned. This is the Air Force sage green fatique shirt. This came from the same estate as the Ike and bush jackets above: this guy enlisted in AAF in 1944 and retired from USAF in 1964 and left two trunks of uniforms spanning the years. The shirt's labels were missing but I believe this was late 1950's: HONORING FAMILY LtCol Wm Russell (1679-1757) VA Mil; Pvt Zachariah McKay (1714-97) Frederick VA Mil; BrigGen Evan Shelby, Jr (1719-94) VA Mil; Pvt Vincent Hobbs (1722-1808) Wythe VA Mil; Pvt Hugh Alexander (1724-77); Lt John R. Litton (1726-1804); Bvt BrigGen/Col Wm W. Russell (1735-93) 5th VA Rgmt; Lt James Scott (1736-1817); Capt John Murray, Sr (1747-1833); Capt John Sehorn, Sr (1748-1831) VA Mil; Pvt Corbin Lane (1750-1816) Franklin/TN Mil; Cpl Jesse D. Reynolds (1750-1836) 5th VA Rgmt; Capt. Solomon C. Litton (1751-1844); 1Lt Christopher Casey (1754-1840) SC Mil; Pvt Mark Adams (1755-1828); Pvt Randolph White (1755-1831) Bailey's Co. VA Rgmt; Capt. John R. Russell (1758-1838); Pvt Joseph T. Cooley (1767-1826) Fort Hempstead Mil; Pvt Thomas Barron (1776-1863) 1812; Capt. John Baumgardner (1787-1853) VA Mil; Pvt Joel Estep (1828-1864) Co B 5th KY Inf CSA & US; Pvt George B. Bell (1833-1910) Co C 47th IL Inf US; Cpl Daniel H. Barron (1838-1910) Co B 19th TN Rgmt Inf CSA; Capt Richard K. Kaufman (1908-1946) 7th PRG/3rd AF CCU; T-5 Vernon L. Bell (1926-95) 1802nd Spec Rgmt; PO2 Murray J. Heichman (1932-2019) HQSB/MCRD; PFC Jess Long (1934-2017) US Army; PFC Donald W. Johnson (1931-) 43rd ID HQ; A1C Keith W. Bell (1931-2011) 314th TCW; A3C Michael S. Bell (1946-) 3346th CMS; A1C Sam W. Lee (1954-2017) 2d BW; AW3 Keith J. Price (1975-) VP-10; 1Lt Matthew Wm Bell (1985-) 82nd Abn/SOC Link to post Share on other sites
Edelweisse Posted February 14, 2018 Share #833 Posted February 14, 2018 Recently picked OG-107 CMSgt (E-9) Shirt/Jacket with silk Blue "US Air Force" Tape and CMSgt Stripes...name tape removed. Size: SMALL but can't read the contract label which faded. I like this type stripe vs. the current...but I guess it's me Link to post Share on other sites
Edelweisse Posted February 14, 2018 Share #834 Posted February 14, 2018 Here is the CMSgt 1963 4-Pocket service jacket Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted February 14, 2018 Share #835 Posted February 14, 2018 Recently picked OG-107 CMSgt (E-9) Shirt/Jacket with silk Blue "US Air Force" Tape and CMSgt Stripes...name tape removed. Size: SMALL but can't read the contract label which faded. I like this type stripe vs. the current...but I guess it's me Nice Non Merrowed Edge Flat edge chevrons. Link to post Share on other sites
Edelweisse Posted February 15, 2018 Share #836 Posted February 15, 2018 The OG-107 is a Type#1...came with trousers size: MEDIUM Link to post Share on other sites
IntotheBlue Posted February 16, 2018 Share #837 Posted February 16, 2018 I just sent my email to Shiffer inquiring about Volume three. Somehow I missed Mr. Young's post (above) and wish I had emailed the publisher even sooner. I own (and enjoy) the first two volumes, but am looking forward most to Vol. 3 on work uniforms. I encourage everyone else even remotely interested in this subject area to also do the same and contact Shiffer to publish this book. Link to post Share on other sites
IntotheBlue Posted February 16, 2018 Share #838 Posted February 16, 2018 It's been a fight to publish volume three. Right now it looks like our best chance is to self-publish through Amazon. Unfortunately the product will not be the glossy large table top type finish but it will be the 11X8'1/2 soft cover like MSgt Chris Arnold's Peacekeepers series. It will still contain all of the info on the fatigues. Then we will look at the years of camouflage now up to the USAF adoption of the Army’s OCP uniform. Thanks guys, I will try to get it out as soon as I can. It’s a complicated process. Lance Link to post Share on other sites
IntotheBlue Posted February 16, 2018 Share #839 Posted February 16, 2018 The only Fatigue shirt (AKA jacket) to have covered buttons was the Sage green issue. As seen in Bluehawk's photo above. I tried to upload a photo of a complete set of Sage Greens from Ridgeway Sage Green cap down to Sage Green trousers. The file is too big or it won't take the Tiff format. It will be in Into the Blue vol 3 when I get it printed. The sage green fatigues had a relatively short life span, although the shirt underwent one pattern change. It appears from studying QM labels of numerous shirts, trousers and field jackets, the sage green fatigue uniform began mass production in 1956. In 1957, it replaced the one and two-piece HBTs as the issued utility uniform for enlisted male personnel. At this point, the one-piece coveralls became an alternate issue utility uniform and a specialty uniform obtained through organizational issue. This is also further validated by period photos of basic trainees at Lackland AFB between 1956 and late 1959. However, within a few years a decision was made to convert to the QM Shade OG 107 (olive drab) cotton sateen fatigues being worn by the U.S. Army since 1952. In July 1959, the new OG 107 cotton sateen fatigues replaced the sage green fatigues as the issued utility uniform. The sage green fatigues remained in the inventory until July 1969 when they were phased out along with the HBTs. Link to post Share on other sites
P-40Warhawk Posted February 17, 2018 Share #840 Posted February 17, 2018 Great information, I'm looking forward to the volume on work uniforms. Years ago I was given some VN era shirts, and that would help sort out what they are. ***WANTED*** Uniforms to Pearl Harbor Survivors. Wanted: USN uniforms to Pearl Harbor survivors & WWII sunk ship survivors. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/264131-wanted-uniforms-to-pearl-harbor-and-sunk-ships-survivors/ WANTED - seriously interested in named Chief/Senior/Master TORPEDOMAN USN uniforms from the 1950s-1960s-1970s, and named USN jumpers or CPO coats from WWII. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/321179-wanted-torpedoman-uniforms-named-1920s-1970s/ "All Torpedoes running Hot, Straight and Normal." Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted February 17, 2018 Share #841 Posted February 17, 2018 The Sage Green Fatiques being worn by Air Force Academy K-Dets 1961, from C.B. Colby's 1962 book on the Air Force Academy. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 27, 2018 Share #842 Posted March 27, 2018 Found some new ones to share. A 1964 foto, note the White tape on the one side, rather than saying as was common at this date, U S A F, it says CRASH RESCUE, and both tapes appear to be embroidered rather than the typical for the period, Stenciled/Stamped style. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 27, 2018 Share #843 Posted March 27, 2018 Para Rescue I presume, a Master Parachutist already at the rank of E-5, stateside I presume too, circa 1965. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 27, 2018 Share #844 Posted March 27, 2018 Nicely patched up fatique shirt on a Tech Sgt of an unknown unit, numbered 526 (any ideas on unit you Flyboys?) foto from the late 60's lets say. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 27, 2018 Share #845 Posted March 27, 2018 And this one, a recruit??? or permanent party Airman???, the fourragère, don't know if it is a French rope, can't tell if there's Red Flecking, or some kind of unit thing, a solid Green, but then I think only a Beligian fourragère was awarded to USAAF units or a unit during WWII anyway. Photo circa 1966. . Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy53 Posted March 27, 2018 Share #846 Posted March 27, 2018 Not the fourragère. Green rope means student leader in tech school. Others were white, blue, yellow and red. I don't remember the ranking, other than a yellow rope was a class leader and blue rope was pretty much like a student commander. White was a chapel leader. There were similar "ropes" for those students held in casual status awaiting either discharge of tech school assignment. those ropes were the same colors intertwined with white. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 27, 2018 Share #847 Posted March 27, 2018 Not the fourragère. Green rope means student leader in tech school. Others were white, blue, yellow and red. I don't remember the ranking, other than a yellow rope was a class leader and blue rope was pretty much like a student commander. White was a chapel leader. There were similar "ropes" for those students held in casual status awaiting either discharge of tech school assignment. those ropes were the same colors intertwined with white. Thanks flyboy, then this sort of thing had no metal finial? Certainly has the clover leaf configuration on the rear shoulder, a signature of French made fourragère's, I think there are some solid types in the Shoulder Cords Fourragère topic in main Uniforms forum, for reference, let me look around and see. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 27, 2018 Share #848 Posted March 27, 2018 Thanks flyboy, then this sort of thing had no metal finial? Certainly has the clover leaf configuration on the rear shoulder, a signature of French made fourragère's, I think there are some solid types in the Shoulder Cords Fourragère topic in main Uniforms forum, for reference, let me look around and see. Found a mention of this in this very topic. see poat 607 with ID by Lee Ragan post 613. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5846-post-wwii-50s-60s-us-air-force-uniform-photos/page-25&do=findComment&comment=2100044 Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy53 Posted March 27, 2018 Share #849 Posted March 27, 2018 Thanks flyboy, then this sort of thing had no metal finial? Certainly has the clover leaf configuration on the rear shoulder, a signature of French made fourragère's, I think there are some solid types in the Shoulder Cords Fourragère topic in main Uniforms forum, for reference, let me look around and see. Actually, it did -- brass as I recall. Link to post Share on other sites
patches Posted March 28, 2018 Share #850 Posted March 28, 2018 Actually, it did -- brass as I recall. Right. Link to post Share on other sites
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