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27 B-52 bombers were launched from its runway June 18, 1965. The aircraft initiated Operation Arc Light, bombing missions over North and South Vietnam to strike Viet Cong base operations and enemy troop concentrations and supply lines. Arc Light missions continued for eight years.

 

 

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Man that Tokyo tailord tan is awesome!! I always find it wierd that jackets of this Era are seldom named...

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13th USAAF uniforms and groups/medal groups!

307th BG, 5th BG, 11th BG, 42nd BG

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WWII Far East Air Force uniforms/groups!

Any Pacific Army Air Force Groups to 5th, 7th, 10th, 14th, 20th AAF

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Hi Bodes and Folks: I just found this info about USAF Mess Dress Black & White uniforms...

 

The Mess dress uniform is worn to formal or semi-formal occasions such as Dinings-in, Dinings-out, the annual Air Force Ball, weddings and other formal functions where civilian "black tie" would be prescribed. Until the early 1980s, this uniform differed from the current version, previously consisting of separate mess jackets, a white mess jacket worn in spring and summer and a black mess jacket worn in fall and winter, combined with black trousers and ties for males and an options of a black cocktail length or black evening length skirt for females. Black cummerbunds for males and females and white and black service hats for males were also prescribed, although wear of these hats was often optional. The current mess dress uniform in use since the early/mid-1980s consists of a dark blue mess jacket and mess dress trousers for males and a similar color evening length skirt for females.

 

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Thank you. Yes, it's a shame it isn't named.With a DFC I would assume a fighter pilot.

Why would you assume it was to a fighter pilot? Pilots of other types often were awarded the DFC. The DFC was sure not restricted to fighters or any combat aircraft type.

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Why would you assume it was to a fighter pilot? Pilots of other types often were awarded the DFC. The DFC was sure not restricted to fighters or any combat aircraft type.I was thinking DFC &

 

Yes.I know that. But I was thinking a DFC & 4 AM's. But yes he could have been a helicopter, bomber, FAC, Transport, etc...pilot.

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Hello, picked this up from EBay probably 12-15 years ago, probably mid to late 1950's maybe earlier. It's not bad for about $40.00....

This one's really interesting to me. I'm not saying it's a put together but the owner definitely had to have had an interesting career.

 

The Combat Infantryman means he had to have been in the Army in the Pacific at some point in World War II as there are no ribbons for Korea. The American Defense Service Medal with bronze star could signify a member of the Air Corps serving in the Philippines at the outbreak of the war who was pressed into service as an infantryman and earned the CIB. However, there is no Philippine Defense Ribbon. Or he could have been an infantryman who served in Hawaii before Pearl Harbor perhaps with the 25th Infantry Division. But the Berlin Airlift device on the Army of Occupation ribbon means he was in Europe postwar and probably with the Air Force by then.

 

The Air Force Commendation Medal was created in 1958 and he has two of those awards, so they would both have to have been earned after then. When did the Air Force quit wearing the Ike?

 

Also, when and how would he have earned a Navy Commendation Medal? Not to mention the Army Good Conduct and Army of Occupation ribbons are way out of order.

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The "short" blue Ike was phased out in 1964. That was the year I went in. Would loved to have worn it I was THIN then and it would have looked good. Some of the older members were starting to personally phase out there wearing as when you get older and develop an "over hang" it's not the best look personally. However, that said the phase out of the Ike was not popular among some as the minutes from the June USAF Uniform Board: "Officers and enlisted were not enthusiastic about phasing out the Ike jacket." Even so the phase out date of 31 May 1964 was established by the board.

 

The Navy Commendation does throw you for a loop but there are surprisingly many who served in two or three branches during their career. In the late 60s there was a article in the Stars & Stripes about an NCO who had served in the Army, the AF and was re-upping as a MARINE! A gluten for punishment!

 

The other ribbons are correct. The Army commendation may have been awarded to him prior to 1958 when the USAF decided to award a USAF commendation medal of it's own. As to the good conduct medal the AF awarded the army medal until it decided to issue an AF specific medal. A side note is that in 2006 the AF decided to phase out the good conduct medal as "All airmen are expected to display good conduct without the need to award a medal for their expected conduct." Their was such a hue and cry that the USAFGCM was re-instated in 2009 and back-awarded to those in the three-year gap. You will find AF uniforms with both Army and AFGCMs. As to his Berlin Air Lift device it was awarded to those who participated in the endeavor from June 28 1948 to 30 September 1949. In July 1949 Congress authorized the Medal For Humane Action (AKA the Berlin Airlift Medal. It was specifically authorized for those who served in the geographical boundary of Berlin during that period. When awarded this medal the Airlift device was superseded and was not to be worn with MFHA. However, you see it often and it appears that no one bothered to inforce it!

 

Great uniform with lots of "caricature!"

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When I was stationed at K.I. Sawyer AFB, Mich. in the late 60's we had a Staff Sergeant our squadron who had been in the Army, Navy and Air Force. He said his original intention was to make all 5 services, but by the time he had finished the first 3, he felt too old to survive Marine Corps Boot camp. The Marines don't accept any other services basic training. He was already in his mid 30's by then, so that ended his progression thru the services. No Marine Corps or Coast Guard. People who have served in two branches were VERY common in the Air Force back then and when you factor in the overlap of Army ribbons being used by the USAF well into the 60's, you can get some really interesting racks.

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When I was stationed at K.I. Sawyer AFB, Mich. in the late 60's we had a Staff Sergeant our squadron who had been in the Army, Navy and Air Force. He said his original intention was to make all 5 services, but by the time he had finished the first 3, he felt too old to survive Marine Corps Boot camp. The Marines don't accept any other services basic training. He was already in his mid 30's by then, so that ended his progression thru the services. No Marine Corps or Coast Guard. People who have served in two branches were VERY common in the Air Force back then and when you factor in the overlap of Army ribbons being used by the USAF well into the 60's, you can get some really interesting racks.

 

The Guard is like that now. We had dudes there were prior Navy, Marines, Army and Coast Guard.

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The "short" blue Ike was phased out in 1964. That was the year I went in. Would loved to have worn it I was THIN then and it would have looked good. Some of the older members were starting to personally phase out there wearing as when you get older and develop an "over hang" it's not the best look personally. However, that said the phase out of the Ike was not popular among some as the minutes from the June USAF Uniform Board: "Officers and enlisted were not enthusiastic about phasing out the Ike jacket." Even so the phase out date of 31 May 1964 was established by the board.

 

The Navy Commendation does throw you for a loop but there are surprisingly many who served in two or three branches during their career. In the late 60s there was a article in the Stars & Stripes about an NCO who had served in the Army, the AF and was re-upping as a MARINE! A gluten for punishment!

 

The other ribbons are correct. The Army commendation may have been awarded to him prior to 1958 when the USAF decided to award a USAF commendation medal of it's own. As to the good conduct medal the AF awarded the army medal until it decided to issue an AF specific medal. A side note is that in 2006 the AF decided to phase out the good conduct medal as "All airmen are expected to display good conduct without the need to award a medal for their expected conduct." Their was such a hue and cry that the USAFGCM was re-instated in 2009 and back-awarded to those in the three-year gap. You will find AF uniforms with both Army and AFGCMs. As to his Berlin Air Lift device it was awarded to those who participated in the endeavor from June 28 1948 to 30 September 1949. In July 1949 Congress authorized the Medal For Humane Action (AKA the Berlin Airlift Medal. It was specifically authorized for those who served in the geographical boundary of Berlin during that period. When awarded this medal the Airlift device was superseded and was not to be worn with MFHA. However, you see it often and it appears that no one bothered to inforce it!

 

Great uniform with lots of "caricature!"

Lance. On your statement "The "short" blue Ike was phased out in 1964" What would of the been Regs governing the wear them up to that date? Did people really still wear them in the early 60s? In the Army the IKE was out by the early 60s, very early, with a cut off 1 October 1960, with the new Army Green 44 uniform being standard, but even before that date nobody really wore them anymore, certainly not in formation or as a duty uniform if the Class A was prescribed. So very interested on how it was in the USAF of the day.

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Not sure about the active duty Air Force, but Civil Air Patrol personnel (mostly cadets) continued to wear the Shade 84 Ike Jacket as late as 1966. I was a PA Wing Cadet then and remember it.

 

What about the version worn by SPs in the 70s?

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Not sure about the active duty Air Force, but Civil Air Patrol personnel (mostly cadets) continued to wear the Shade 84 Ike Jacket as late as 1966. I was a PA Wing Cadet then and remember it.

 

What about the version worn by SPs in the 70s?

Thanks flyboy, was there a photo or photos floating around here of SPs in IKEs?

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Some additional comments about the Blue Ike. I was stationed with the Armed Forces Police, Washington DC, 1963-1964. The preferred winter uniform was the Ike and trousers, while the summer uniform was Silver Tan gabardine shirt and trousers. Both of these uniforms were phased out on 30 June 1964.

 

A couple of comments about the uniform in the attached pictures. The cap is a Navy Chief Petty Officer's, with USAF cap badge, side buttons and chin strap. It was easier to maintain (bill did not have to be spit shined) and was lighter and cooler to wear.

 

If you will look closely at the Ike jacket, you will see that uniform blue belt loops have been added. These made it easier to wear the Sam Browne equipment, as well as, made for a better / sharper appearance.

 

These pictures were taken 54 years ago, so you can imagine I can even think about fitting into that uniform.

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Some additional comments about the Blue Ike. I was stationed with the Armed Forces Police, Washington DC, 1963-1964. The preferred winter uniform was the Ike and trousers, while the summer uniform was Silver Tan gabardine shirt and trousers. Both of these uniforms were phased out on 30 June 1964.

 

A couple of comments about the uniform in the attached pictures. The cap is a Navy Chief Petty Officer's, with USAF cap badge, side buttons and chin strap. It was easier to maintain (bill did not have to be spit shined) and was lighter and cooler to wear.

 

If you will look closely at the Ike jacket, you will see that uniform blue belt loops have been added. These made it easier to wear the Sam Browne equipment, as well as, made for a better / sharper appearance.

 

These pictures were taken 54 years ago, so you can imagine I can even think about fitting into that uniform.

 

 

Great pictures, story, and description.The AP badge looks to have the enameled center?

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Not strictly a "uniform" picture, but here's one from the Truman Library collection of Col. William Draper, pilot for President Eisenhower, dated 1959, wearing Army-pattern presidential aide devices.

 

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Great picture, thanks for posting. I have had a pair of the Presidential insignia, like depicted in your picture, for a long time. I always assumed they were samples as I could never find a reference in documentation. The are the same design as the Army, except in silver vice gold, and made by Balfour.

 

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