astra44 Posted May 17, 2011 #176 Posted May 17, 2011 :w00t: Speaking of "transitional" - here is a film from the 1947 USAF (fairly long, but fun) ALL kinds of uniforms, insignia and gear to be seen: Well worth watching. The first clip not so "serious" as the second part of the film, but both a great glimpse back into the past. Some nice airplane shots too -- especially interesting to see those ones that never made it into long-term service. Did I hear them call helicopters "Flying windmills" ?!
deros Posted May 18, 2011 #177 Posted May 18, 2011 Moving past the immediate post war era temporarily if I may to discuss the sage transitional phase of the late 50's..... Aside from being exasperated with my continued failure to source any shade 509 stuff large enough to display in, I was wondering how long the ww2 hbt coverall lasted amongst ground crews.. certainly I have seen examples USAF ranked, with the distinctive double width stencilled tape above the pocket which makes me think that these could have seen service alongside the shade 509 two piece set. Anyone able to confirm my suspicions and better still, evidence components of the two shades being mixed/ matched?
Wailuna Posted May 20, 2011 #178 Posted May 20, 2011 ...I was wondering how long the ww2 hbt coverall lasted amongst ground crews.. certainly I have seen examples USAF ranked, with the distinctive double width stencilled tape above the pocket which makes me think that these could have seen service alongside the shade 509 two piece set. Anyone able to confirm my suspicions... Forum member evstringer might be able to help you with that. Link here to see pictures of evsinger wearing one-piece HBT in 1956 and two-piece in 1957.
deros Posted May 20, 2011 #179 Posted May 20, 2011 Excellent thank you... I cant tell whether the later pic is hbt 2 piece or not..
Wailuna Posted May 24, 2011 #180 Posted May 24, 2011 ...I cant tell whether the later pic is hbt 2 piece or not... Nor can I. However, evstringer is definite about wearing 2-piece fatigues in that 1957 picture. Are the feasible alternatives for 2-piece fatigues in 1957 either HBT or Sage? You might try a PM to evstringer to ask if he remembers more about the fatigues he was wearing in that picture.
reddevil1311 Posted October 9, 2012 #181 Posted October 9, 2012 Resurrecting this thread (as it is possibly one of my favourites on the whole board!). Post transitional, but still early USAF. Nothing special. Ashley
carnut63 Posted October 9, 2012 #182 Posted October 9, 2012 Thanks for bringing this one back. I like the early USAF stuff, especially the guys that saw action in the AAC during the war. I always think these uniforms are under valued, which is perfectly OK with me.
zsmith Posted April 11, 2013 #183 Posted April 11, 2013 I posted this photo of my grandfather in another thread. A forum member suggested that I post it here as well. This photo is from his machinist school class which would have been around 1950.
zsmith Posted April 11, 2013 #184 Posted April 11, 2013 Also this photo of my grandfather showing the double collar brass.
reddevil1311 Posted April 12, 2013 #185 Posted April 12, 2013 I posted this photo of my grandfather in another thread. A forum member suggested that I post it here as well. This photo is from his machinist school class which would have been around 1950. Really interesting mixture of uniforms and insignia! Great photo! looks like they still have their "Army" uniforms with some USAF insignia and some Army insignia. Very unusual to see double collar insignia and what seem to be the short-lived gold and blue PFC stripes in the same line up as USAF stripes. Great, great photo. Thanks for sharing! A
Captainofthe7th Posted April 15, 2013 #186 Posted April 15, 2013 Really interesting photo, thanks for sharing!! Check out how crooked the SSI is on the Corporal on the left. The small Army style private stripe is very interesting, I've never seen that before on a USAF uniform. Rob
patches Posted April 15, 2013 #187 Posted April 15, 2013 I spoted the Discs straight away, Engineer, they would be Army, they are in all likeliness, to use the British term, seconded to the Air Force for both Training and by virtue of one of them wearing a Air Force shoulder patch, assignment. I,m thinking these GIs are a early component of what would soon be SCARWAF remembering that it was Army Engineers who were assigned to SCARWAF.
zsmith Posted April 15, 2013 #188 Posted April 15, 2013 My grandfather is 5th from the left (handsome private with double collar discs). He was a machinist in an Engineering Aviation Maintenance Co. (SCARWAF). He was regular Army throughout his enlistment. His discharge papers list him as RA-SCARWAF.
Salvage Sailor Posted April 15, 2013 #189 Posted April 15, 2013 Am I also seeing shoulder-arcs above 3 of the SSI's? I borrowed this photo from member Hawk3370 posted on another thread.
zsmith Posted April 15, 2013 #190 Posted April 15, 2013 Am I also seeing shoulder-arcs above 3 of the SSI's? You are correct. My grandfather had a few AAF patches and SAC rockers. These were the earliest SAC SSI's and the Army SCARWAF units fell under control of SAC.Here is a photo of some of the items from my grandfather's collection:DEAD LINK 1/3/17 DWIV
zsmith Posted April 15, 2013 #191 Posted April 15, 2013 I was asked by a forum member to also post this photo of my grandfather showing him wearing a 15th AF patch along with COE collar brass.DEAD link 1/3/17 DWIV
patches Posted January 3, 2017 #192 Posted January 3, 2017 Now that's what I call a TRANSITIONAL uniform
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