mhk Posted September 16, 2009 Share #101 Posted September 16, 2009 More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhk Posted September 16, 2009 Share #102 Posted September 16, 2009 Last Looks like there has been recondo patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share #103 Posted September 16, 2009 That is the shadow of what appears to be a patch for sure !!! owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhk Posted September 16, 2009 Share #104 Posted September 16, 2009 There is also used marked above of pocket "rust e.m." or rust e. something I have no idea what it means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcher Posted September 16, 2009 Share #105 Posted September 16, 2009 This ERDL shirt is just extra cool , you lucky Irish dog :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bish Posted September 16, 2009 Share #106 Posted September 16, 2009 More Love those rear pockets. Very nice, whats the story behind this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted September 16, 2009 Share #107 Posted September 16, 2009 These are the two RUST E. listed on militaryusa : Name: RUST ELTON M Branch: ARMY Rate: E04 Rank: CORPORAL OR SPECIALI MOS: 67A MOS Title: Aircraft Maintenance Apprentice Entered: 6711 Discharged: 720421 Service Number: State: NORTH DAKOTA Race: CAUCASIAN Name: RUST EDWIN A II Branch: ARMY Rate: E00 Rank: UNKNOWN MOS: 96B MOS Title: Intelligence Analyst Entered: 7005 Discharged: 711129 Service Number: State: KANSAS Race: CAUCASIAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhk Posted September 16, 2009 Share #108 Posted September 16, 2009 Very nice, whats the story behind this? No story at all...just found it and purchased it about 6 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBT Posted September 16, 2009 Share #109 Posted September 16, 2009 Mike Tucker, Thanks for the awesome SOG pics you've posted to this thread! Owen, Since I haven't had the opportunity to inspect your ERDL jacket in person, why don't you send it to me and I will tell you it got lost in the mail! ---Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share #110 Posted September 16, 2009 Chris , No sweat it is on its way via UPS . In 6 years UPS only lost 1 box of mine . I ship at least 75 boxes per month for my clothing business . The 1 box lost went to Scott Miller containing a Invisible ERDL set . He wrote me a scathing Email calling me a scum bag trying to rip him off . Well it seems he is the one pulling scams on many collectors who are part of OUR collecting comunity . Sad guy with mixed up brain . If you want to play with it NO sweat , but Paul has booked it for an lend when I am out of town next !!!! owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted September 17, 2009 Share #111 Posted September 17, 2009 Hey. I lost stuff in that box too, when you sent it to him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share #112 Posted September 17, 2009 Sorry Bob , I forgot to mention that . And as a post script , I thought there was 2 pairs of trousers in the box . During SM rant against me he called me out as he said there was only 1 pair in the box . Now as you know I foun d the other pair under my desk at work weeks later . How did he know this if UPS lost the box , which according to them they left at his door step . Fishy to say the least . But sorry off topic , Chris you opened up a gaping wound !!! owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Patrol Posted September 17, 2009 Share #113 Posted September 17, 2009 Oh yeah, Steve you are a bad boy! Thanks! I like to keep you on your toes, old timer! and make sure that ticker is still workin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Patrol Posted September 17, 2009 Share #114 Posted September 17, 2009 All said and done , I have learned some usefull information here .Thanks to all who pitched in owen kammoman . I'm glad it was a learning event...as it should be! BTW, if I haven't said it....great jacket...nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share #115 Posted September 17, 2009 Cheers S owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted September 18, 2009 Share #116 Posted September 18, 2009 After speaking with Jason Hardy he added another theory that none us us looked at. He believes this could have been a FAC Covey back seater. They were not allowed to wear insignia either, and it would explain the side tailoring, as to keep it fitted better for getting in and out of a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegsmodell Posted September 18, 2009 Share #117 Posted September 18, 2009 Thanks Bob. Jason's theory is an interesting thought to say the least ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #118 Posted September 18, 2009 Hi all Nice to see the jacket got moved into the adult section. If Jason thinks that the jacket was made for a back seater I will respect his opinion . Jason Hardy is just about the most knowledgeable man out there talking to SOG vets alive so he knows what he is talking about . That being said would someone be kind enough to explain how and why a back seater would come to be wearing a jacket with only medical information in the middle of a combat zone . Thanks owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aips Posted September 18, 2009 Share #119 Posted September 18, 2009 owen i was so taken back by your jacket i took a burst of six i emailed your pics to a b-53 one-zero sog vet told him about the debate he repleyed with this Jack, I had a shirt like the one shown and had ABNEG nametag on left pocket. I wore it at least once in the field as it got ripped in several places and i had it repaired. I gave it to a friend when i left and then when i got to nha trang that was designated as the uniform that we'd come home in. I came home with group mar 2/71./ I wore a brand new uniform which really pissed me off as i looked like a new guy. Note the shirt is tucked in to keep from fouling a snap link. Jack, mho the blood grp marked shirts were for opns. Why would anyone wear these in camp.? We wore dogtags except in the field. Usually. Also this marking was a bit of theater as the evac hosp ALWAYS did blood work before doing a transfusion. jim hope this helps i belive jim was in a hatchet force jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #120 Posted September 18, 2009 Very good information Aips . Notice he said he tucked in the jacket ? It has been stated that the ERDL SOGjackets had their lower pockets removed . This one has not had them removed thus leading to the Back seat theory . The plot thickens . owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguoi tien su Posted September 18, 2009 Share #121 Posted September 18, 2009 I have to agree with Steve on this one. Not saying it is not authentic, but probably a camp worn shirt. Especially since it is ERDL. I have plenty of photographs of this type of badged shirt, but all are worn in camp and no photographs of them worn in the field. The caption is RT Idaho, 1971. To me Bowra is wearing an ERDL shirt. On other photos taken later he is also wearing that kind of modified jacket when he was working with FANK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguoi tien su Posted September 18, 2009 Share #122 Posted September 18, 2009 BTW wonderful shirt you show here Owen. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #123 Posted September 18, 2009 Thanks NTS , That means alot comming from you . The picture you posted is awsome , SOG in ERDL !!!!!! owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted September 18, 2009 Share #124 Posted September 18, 2009 What Jason said, was just like the teams opearting cross border. the Fac Pilot's and Rider's wore no patches and carried no-identification. So if they went down they were not identified right away. They wore the blood types on the shirts for if they were wounded and got rescued. Plus, a rear seated was usually someone who had already been on a team, and most were former 1-0's, so they could have worn their older shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #125 Posted September 18, 2009 That is quite a complex answer to my question . Wow . It seems this jacket holds many dark secrets ........... owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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