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Those old aviation cadet uniforms were issued to regular enlisted men. I think that's what's going on here. It does look like an 8th AAF patch!

 

Kurt


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Guys, I think you are right about the 8th patch-the cadet uniform is neat as well. I looked on the back of the photo and it has Rapid City, SD-a drugstore name and the date of May 1, 1945. Maybe the vet was an instructor there or preparing for discharge? Not sure as to the ribbons but looks like a GCM and ETO on the bottom and maybe an Air Medal with clusters above, can't tell the others. This photo came with a bunch from a 379th BG gunner. Just thought it was a nice example of the un-official being worn out.

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Yea I think they re-used some of those cadet uniforms, I have a 5th Air force jacket that you can tell had the cadet patch removed from the sleeve.

As for this photo that is def an 8th patch. The no color brass is strange though. But I have learned to never say never!


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So what is the give-away on this B&W photo that it is / was a "cadet" uniform?


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So what is the give-away on this B&W photo that it is / was a "cadet" uniform?

It's the sewn belt that doesn't actually have a buckle.

 

Kurt


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It's the sewn belt that doesn't actually have a buckle.

 

Kurt

Ah, the forest and the trees! Thx Kurt!


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Here are sellers pics of a Caterpillar Club pin I picked up some years ago.It is still on the card in the original envelope.IIRC,I got this from eBay seller Freshfound.

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High Flight

Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth

And danced the skies on laughter-silver wings;

Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth

Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things

You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung

High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there

I've chased the shouting wind along and flung

My eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long delirious, burning blue

I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,

where never lark, or even eagle flew;

and while, with silent, lifting mind I've trod

The high untrespassed sanctity of space,

Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

 

John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

June 9, 1922 – December 11, 1941

 

 

 

" And each man stands with his face in the light of his own drawn sword. Ready to do what a hero can." - Elizabeth Barrett Browning

 

 

Don't let the B@stards wear you down -"Vinegar" Joe Stillwell

 

 

Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world.Unreasonable

people attempt to adapt the world to themselves.All progress,

therefore, depends on unreasonable people.

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That type of screw back pin is a postwar style they still issue today.

 

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Here is a card to a 95th Bomb Group POW captured 2/10/44.

 

It's been well loved.

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I can't find another example of the Hayes Skyhook Club pin. Has anyone seen it before?

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Us Brits always have to throw a shoe into the works so here's the British equivalent of the caterpillar club called the Irving silk Shute club, however its worn on an American owned British made uniform so presumably he was awarded whilst in the RAF's service and later moved across to the AAF

​Enjoy

Tom

 

 

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Navigator of a B-17 named " The Joker" with the 94th Bomb Group. He was captured 10/7/44 and held in Stalag Luft 3 in the South Compound.

 

 

Standard Irving style pin.

 

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Neato!


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"I have only two men out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (Message sent by 1st Lt. Clifton B. Cates. USMC, 96th Co., Soissons, 19 July 1918 - later 19th Commandant of the Marine Corps 1948-1952)

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I can't find another example of the Hayes Skyhook Club pin. Has anyone seen it before?

They are scarce. I have never found one,

 

Kurt


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Kastauffer asked me to add this to the thread.I picked this up yesterday in a trade out of Ohio.The pin and card are IDed to Harold G. Russell shot down 6-22-43 during the Attack on the synthetic rubber factory at Huls Germany.He bailed out and was taken prisoner and spent the rest of the war as a guest of the Germans.After the Men and Women of the Forum helped with his unit which was the 337th bomb squadron 96th bomb group, the attack and becoming a POW I found out he is from Wisconsin my home state.If you Goggle search the net there is a ton of info on Mr. Russell, the attack, and the crews capture.

 

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Glad to say this one is in my collection now thanks to Bill!

 

Kurt


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This is the last item I have. It is very unusual and I do not know its background, however I have seen a few more of these.

 

It is an aluminum plaque with a parachute D-ring named to a 15th AAF crewman who had to bail out and was a POW. Notice the time and place are noted on the tag.

 

I have seen tags like the one attached this item on WWII equipment and on the inside of WWII submarines , so it may be from the 40's or 50's .

 

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If you have any items in your collections.. please post em here!!!!!!!!

 

Kurt,

 

I just saw this post and your comment. The plaque you have is from the Switlick company and was available for private purchase in their newsletter to members. I have never seen one, other than in the newsletter.

 

Gary B


ANA LM #1201868, OMSA LM #60, OVMS LM #8348

 

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Kurt,

 

I just saw this post and your comment. The plaque you have is from the Switlick company and was available for private purchase in their newsletter to members. I have never seen one, other than in the newsletter.

 

Gary B

 

Thanks Gary, I did not know that.

 

Kurt


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Always looking for uniquely marked helmets, WWI and WWII American Field Service items, WWII and earlier USMC items and named or numbered medals and medal groups.


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There have been a rash of suspect IRVING pins showing up on Ebay lately.

 

This is a known real pin:

 

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Below are the suspect pins:

 

 

They appear to be cast and are marked "sterling" which the other WWII Irving gold washed silver Pins I have seen are not.

 

The red eyes are also very sloppily painted which the originals do not. The pins also open 180 degrees on these. The originals only open 90 degrees.

 

Here are some pic snaps from Ebay on some I have found that sold , 2 from one seller and a third pin from another.

 

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Does anyone have any thoughts?


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I was going to say they came from He Whom Shall Not Be Named (HWSNBN) although the detail on the front seems better then I would have thought the back shows they are clearly cast. With castings the edges alway role away from the mold leaving that soft rolled edge and slightly sunken middle. Have you noticed them coming from a particular seller or maybe HWSNBN had a sale and saturated the uneducated market?


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Titled case set "U.S. Typhus Commission";


Titled case "Medal for Merit";



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I was going to say they came from He Whom Shall Not Be Named (HWSNBN) although the detail on the front seems better then I would have thought the back shows they are clearly cast. With castings the edges alway role away from the mold leaving that soft rolled edge and slightly sunken middle. Have you noticed them coming from a particular seller or maybe HWSNBN had a sale and saturated the uneducated market?

 

I would say you are probably right! I have seen a seller from Arizona selling these and 1 in Florida.

 

Kurt


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Not a fan of this one being sold out of Florida. It looks cast with sloppy painted eyes.

 

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The "Gallery" has flooded the market with these things and sadly they continue to be perpetuated even by some that should know better.


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