BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 22, 2006 Since we've been discussing M1951 clothing in other posts, I thought I would post pictures of my M1951 Pile Cap. By the time I got to Alaska in 73 the Army had obsoleted (is that a word?) all M1951 pile caps. They were no longer in the supply system, however, we were still authorized to wear them if we could get them. The new issue Cap, Insulating, Helmet Liner looked awful when rolled and folded. We used to call it the green cow paddy. Anyways, there was an Army surplus store in downtown Anchorage that did a booming business in these caps. He must have bought out the entire stock of M1951 caps when the Army flushed them. Used caps: $7.50(and they were USED) or never issued: $10.00. I got a new one(ten bucks was a lot to a private in 1973). Greg, you'll see that the data tag lists the pile as "alpaca". Link to post Share on other sites
BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #2 Posted November 22, 2006 side view DEAD LINK 1/13/15 doinworkinvans Link to post Share on other sites
BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted November 22, 2006 rear view DEAD LINK 1/13/15 doinworkinvans Link to post Share on other sites
BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted November 22, 2006 data label DEAD LINK 1/13/15 doinworkinvans Link to post Share on other sites
BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted November 22, 2006 care and feeding label (almost unreadable) DEAD LINK 1/13/15 doinworkinvans Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Robinson Posted November 22, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 22, 2006 The OD Pile Field Cap M1943 was the same as the M1951 but for having pile lining on the brim which had to be annoying to the wearer. It was removed on later versions. For some reason they adopted a transitional model called the OD Pile Field Cap MQ-1 which is the same item as the one called "M1951" but it's early enough to have seen wear in Korea. **PLEASE NOTE: THIS COMMUNITY MEMBER, SADLY, HAS PASSED AWAY** http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/106069-rip-greg-robinson/ Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Robinson Posted November 22, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 22, 2006 Here's the M1943 OD Pile Field Cap. No labels, unfortunately, to verify that it was made in WW2 but I assume it was. Construction is identical to that of my MQ-1 pile cap. **PLEASE NOTE: THIS COMMUNITY MEMBER, SADLY, HAS PASSED AWAY** http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/106069-rip-greg-robinson/ Link to post Share on other sites
BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #8 Posted November 22, 2006 I noticed that your cap has a 50% alpaca/50% wool pile. Mine has a 60% alpaca/40% wool pile. I wonder if that's the reason for the different nomenclature? Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Robinson Posted November 22, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 22, 2006 I own a second MQ-1 Pile cap and it doesn't show the composition of the pile. However, it does show the flannel as being 100% wool while my first MQ1 cap has flannel that is part cotton. So apparently there was some latitude given the contractors with the specs or else they simply took liberties and got away with it. No, I don't think this accounts for the nomenclature change. In 1948 the Army adopted that MQ-1 designation and I can't explain why. I own a 1948 dated M1943 field jacket that is called an MQ-1. **PLEASE NOTE: THIS COMMUNITY MEMBER, SADLY, HAS PASSED AWAY** http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/106069-rip-greg-robinson/ Link to post Share on other sites
BEAR Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share #10 Posted November 22, 2006 Sorry, I was trying to be funny with the nomenclature comment. Didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites
bilko *Deceased* Posted May 24, 2007 Share #11 Posted May 24, 2007 Here is the lable that would have been with gregs,And a different type of pile to this m1943 pile cap. **PLEASE NOTE: THIS COMMUNITY MEMBER HAS SADLY PASSED AWAY** http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/61663-forum-member-bilkos-dave-death-reported/ Link to post Share on other sites
notinfringed Posted November 17, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 17, 2008 here is my only one. It is a little rough. Levi Link to post Share on other sites
rambob Posted December 20, 2008 Share #13 Posted December 20, 2008 Here is a mint WWII dated Pile Cap from my collection for comparison with the QM tag. "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb, bastard die for his country" George Pattons speech to the Third Army. Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #14 Posted September 5, 2010 Some pile cap tags M-1951 ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #15 Posted September 5, 2010 M-1951 ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #16 Posted September 5, 2010 There where some manufactured with white pile too(M-1951) ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #17 Posted September 5, 2010 Tags on white pile caps ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #18 Posted September 5, 2010 ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #19 Posted September 5, 2010 Interesting tag with a date of 1958 ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
koreamike Posted September 5, 2010 Share #20 Posted September 5, 2010 You guys are way , way cool for helping me out ! Thank you koreamike Link to post Share on other sites
koreamike Posted September 5, 2010 Share #21 Posted September 5, 2010 here is my only one. It is a little rough. Levi Thank you for the info koreamike Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #22 Posted September 5, 2010 I noticed there are two contracts and or patterns on the so cold M-1943 cap. The first dated 1943 with that long brownish pile. The second dated 1947 with a shorter greener pile. Then you have the M-Q1 dated 1950 and rushed into prod 1951. Finaly the M-1951 with pattern 1950 and produced 1952 on. ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #23 Posted September 5, 2010 Here a picture where you can see the pile diferences ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #24 Posted September 5, 2010 More detail on the 1947 pattern cap ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
korea drab Posted September 5, 2010 Share #25 Posted September 5, 2010 ALLWAYS LOOKING FOR EX-48 COLD WEATHER ITEMS! Link to post Share on other sites
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