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This MrMac guy puts out some scary repro insignia (fortunately this is not one of them), particularly wing badges which are good enough to fool a novice. He uses legitimate company hallmarks such as Tiffany and doesn't mark his stuff as "copy". Don't know how he gets away with it.

Bobgee


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"I have only two men out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (Message sent by 1st Lt. Clifton B. Cates. USMC, 96th Co., Soissons, 19 July 1918 - later 19th Commandant of the Marine Corps 1948-1952)

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I found it hilarious

 

Tim,

 

From the photos supplied, the eagle could be laughable or hilarious. The folded over and soldered prongs are not! Until today, I thought that piece of information about not seeing folded over prongs on fakes, or folded over prongs being a good sign of originality could help a newer collector find an original in this pattern. It certainly tells me that the fakers are paying attention and listening to what is said, possibly here, on how to try and determine originals from fakes. While I'm all for trying to help the newer collectors save their hard earned money by showing them the pitfalls, it really chaps me to see the fakers using the same information to line their pockets. Man, this seller is truely disgusting vermin!

 

s/f, Gary


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**PLEASE NOTE: THIS COMMUNITY MEMBER HAS SADLY PASSED AWAY**

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15996-please-read-gary-mohrlang-glm/

 

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As Bob said, crappy, but getting closer.


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Actively seeking WW1 4th and 5th Brigade USMC helmets and also a named WW2 Raider green blouse.
I'd rather be a sparrow than a snail, if I could I surely would....

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ah, this goon again. the same one that was on those bino cases posted awhile back


-Brig
GySgt/USMC/0369
RSU-Quantico


"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
RIP
Sgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' Balthaser
Sgt John P Huling
Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco
Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky
LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott
LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye
LCpl Nicolas B Morrison
LCpl Jon T Hicks
LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca
Pvt Lewis T D Calapini
'The SOI 5'

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Sadly, someone shelled out $132 and change for this piece of crap last night thumbdown.gif



The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Hi all, here is my only pair of "Goony Birds". I found these a while ago, and I really like them. To me they look original, but i'd like to hear your comments and opinions.

 

I have my fingers crossed that you guys don't tell me they are genuine Pakistani issue, made last month.

 

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Dennis


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Can you post larger picture think.gif s/f Darrell



The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Here is a larger Photo. Please bear with me and these photos, until I get the hang of posting pics.

 

 

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Here is a bigger image of the back.

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Hi Dennis, yes you have a neat set of repro's there. I could sit here for the next minutes telling you about whats wrong with the thin shell, elongated pin & hook feature, lack of details and overall burnished appearance. But if you will go to any of these posts, you will be on the EGA repro thread and in 15 minutes you will learn more than you might really expect to know when your done. s/f Darrell

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...ost&p=31654

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...ost&p=46029

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...ost&p=46035



The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Sad to say but I agree with Darrell. Would you mind if we used the images for a reference on current reproductions?


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Actively seeking WW1 4th and 5th Brigade USMC helmets and also a named WW2 Raider green blouse.
I'd rather be a sparrow than a snail, if I could I surely would....

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I have to agree as well, sadly. These would have been fantastic variations if original :(


-Brig
GySgt/USMC/0369
RSU-Quantico


"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
RIP
Sgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' Balthaser
Sgt John P Huling
Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco
Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky
LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott
LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye
LCpl Nicolas B Morrison
LCpl Jon T Hicks
LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca
Pvt Lewis T D Calapini
'The SOI 5'

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Hi Guys,

 

thanks for the information. I kinda' had that feeling that they might not be original. I thought that if they were enlisted insignia that they should have been the screw post type, but like you, I thought maybe they were some variation.

 

Oh well, I can't complain too much, we all get burned at some time, and, I am only out 10 bucks so i can live with it.

 

Please, feel free to post them in the Repro Reference section.

 

Thanks

 

Dennis


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Well folks, it appears we have a new seller of this fantasy junk that USNUSA has been selling for years. This seller goes so far as to claim its original too:

 

Original 1880's USMC Marine Corps Shako Hat Badge - No Reserve

 

This is a very nice, large cap badge for the 1880's Marine Shako. Large badge is 2 1/2" wide x 2" tall, and is die struck in thin copper with a gold wash. Multipiece construction - the eagle/globe, two halves of the anchor, and rope are separate piece. The gold wash has partially absorbed back into the base metal, which is what normally happens with items like this after 50-100 years have passed. Otherwise in mint condition - probably unissued stock from the Bannerman collection.

 

Guaranteed original.

 

At $4 a pop this ought to be in high demand for the type collector this year! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=017

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The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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I'd pay 4 bucks for one for laughs

For sure the seller is laughing... $502 is what someone thought this repro hybrid was worth :blink:



The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Here we go again. Latest version of this phony gooney for the officer's service cap. It is a composite of two previous designs generated earlier and identified in this thread. The horribly applied continents ought to be a dead giveaway, sadly someone is likely to spend allot of dollars on this thing.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=018

 

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The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Here are photo's comparing the shape continent design with a known repro. The full EGA shown below is a known repro is in my collection and posted elsewhere in this thread. The one I am sharing from my collection has been sold by USNUSA.

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The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Note the identical shape, composition and outline of the dress emblem anchor stock and flukes counterfeits shown below, the new and improved version of the service emblem is identical... However the poorly wrapped anchor rope of the dress emblem has been improved with this next generation of counterfeits.

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The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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the horribly attached continents will probably boost the price, people will see it as a varient!


-Brig
GySgt/USMC/0369
RSU-Quantico


"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
RIP
Sgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' Balthaser
Sgt John P Huling
Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco
Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky
LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott
LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye
LCpl Nicolas B Morrison
LCpl Jon T Hicks
LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca
Pvt Lewis T D Calapini
'The SOI 5'

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the horribly attached continents will probably boost the price, people will see it as a varient!

 

Appears most realized what this thing was, it sold for 185. Far less than previous fake models have sold for. Looks like this forum is having some affect on the fake marketeers.



The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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Well folks, our favorite ebay repro man "USNUSA" has rolled out a new repro variety for 2008. He goes so far as to claim its original too, looks allot like the H&H dress emblem of WW2. Fortunately, it did not sell:

 

 

2" Marine Corps Officer's cap badge of 1919. Badge, in gold and silver plate is in good condition, HM Hilborn-Hamburger and has hand-applied "rope". Gold portion of badge has faded slightly over time but badge continues to have a fine and rare appearance.

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The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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And here is a second from him. It did not sell;

 

Pair of 1-1/8" USMC Enlisted collar badges of the WWI-style. Badges are pinback with hook-catches and badges are very nicely-detailed having latitude and longitude lines along with "continent" which is nicely defined. A very nice pair of badges which will display well in and Marine Corps collection.

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The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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looks like there's another on the market ,,, item 300246013999

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-Brig
GySgt/USMC/0369
RSU-Quantico


"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
RIP
Sgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' Balthaser
Sgt John P Huling
Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco
Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky
LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott
LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye
LCpl Nicolas B Morrison
LCpl Jon T Hicks
LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca
Pvt Lewis T D Calapini
'The SOI 5'

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