Paul S Posted April 24, 2009 Share #1 Posted April 24, 2009 Here is an interesting Wallace Bishop navigator wing that was sold a few years ago...anyone on this forum have it, or one like it...and would be willing to post a good picture of it? It's an interesting one-off wing that shows some of the south pacific islands in place of the regulation navigator device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted April 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted April 27, 2009 Paul, Thanks for posting such an interesting wing. Why do you think it is a one off? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted April 29, 2009 John Cooper said: Paul, Why do you think it is a one off? John A number of reasons, John...I haven't seen another one like it in the several years I've been closely watching; another picture shows the device to be a soldered-on cap attached to a base wing which would have been reasonably simple to fashion by a local jeweler--I suspect I could have one like it made locally without much investment; of course, it's a non-AAF approved design; and finally my gut just paints a picture of one or a few young guys with some time on their hands in WWII Australia going to town for some cold pints, a quick jump into the jewelry shop, then some food, and finally where's the girls? Nothing more concrete than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted April 29, 2009 Share #4 Posted April 29, 2009 Paul I have learned to trust my gut! I think is is a very cool wing! Since the photo is not clear enough for me to see which islands... looks kind of like Papau New Guinea area.. what do you think? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted July 10, 2009 Share #5 Posted July 10, 2009 I just bought this wings as part of a group to a 5th AAF aircrewman. His group was discussed here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...mp;#entry356929 This is a nice die struck silver Wallace Bishop AAF Aircrew wing. The aircrew insignia is applied separately to the front of the wing. The hallmarked is raised except for the SILVER mark. It is stamped. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted July 10, 2009 Share #6 Posted July 10, 2009 The other thing is that the wing is made up of separate pieces, the center and left and right wing are all individually made and you can see it if you look very closely, I believe. very nice wing. I have a pilot wing that is very similar. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Cooper Posted July 11, 2009 Share #8 Posted July 11, 2009 Kurt, Thanks for posting. This set of wings is a very nice counter point to the newer generation of wings in the last couple years attributed to this maker. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted July 11, 2009 Share #9 Posted July 11, 2009 Hey John, I have heard Angus Coote and K G Luke, but not Wallace Bishop are the ones being faked. Seems that Wallace Bishop are still good to go, no? Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted July 12, 2009 Share #10 Posted July 12, 2009 Patrick - slight omission... I typed maker and ment to say "... Austrailian makers." That is so far only Angus & Coote + K.G. Luke and did not mean to include Wallace & Bishop. This is what I get for sneaking down to the PC to post on the forum without my BOSS... (cough wife) cathing me slacking off :fear: Although now that that has been said I am sure we can expect to see some... John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaw Posted January 20, 2013 Share #11 Posted January 20, 2013 Sorry to resurrect an old post but I picked up one of these interesting Wallace Bishop Navigator wings recently. I know the usual caveats regarding Aussie wings and all the fakes but it looks like a good one to me. Definitely not the usual Navigator device but a map of an island. First one I have ever seen outside of this post. Front: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaw Posted January 20, 2013 Share #12 Posted January 20, 2013 And the back: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaw Posted January 20, 2013 Share #13 Posted January 20, 2013 A somewhat closer shot of the Navigator device: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted January 20, 2013 Share #14 Posted January 20, 2013 I do not have one to cape it to but I have to say the photos do look good. I ma sure someone here will have some additional thoughts for you on this. Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted February 8, 2018 Share #15 Posted February 8, 2018 are these good?? they appear to have the correct character of Wallace bishop but, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted February 8, 2018 Share #16 Posted February 8, 2018 back------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted February 8, 2018 Share #17 Posted February 8, 2018 tough call... I'll take a very careful stab at it and say I see some things that I don't like. But I see some things that I do, too... I'd want to handle these in person and have pretty solid return policy in place, it if were me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted February 8, 2018 Share #18 Posted February 8, 2018 pat, wallace bishop, didnt they have the wings soldered on to the center? these appear to be that way. this is what lead me to go to the good side but, today with all the junk out there a rough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted February 9, 2018 Share #19 Posted February 9, 2018 yes, they should be 3 pieces as you say. And that is one of the things I like. But there are some aspects of the wings that I don't like, as with the catch. As I said, it could go either way, from what I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted May 10, 2018 Share #20 Posted May 10, 2018 think I caught a good one------------ appears to have the imperfections on the face and rear that brit wings would. lines in the shield wavey, lettering on back not in line kind of sloppy. I took a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
268th C.A. Posted May 10, 2018 Share #21 Posted May 10, 2018 I think so, I've never seen one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted May 10, 2018 Share #22 Posted May 10, 2018 front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted May 10, 2018 Share #23 Posted May 10, 2018 Aussie not Brit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted May 10, 2018 Share #24 Posted May 10, 2018 yes pat. what I was saying was I noticed some likeness to the Wallace Bishop to the Angus and Coote. both have the imperfections in the shield and the lettering on the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve L Posted May 10, 2018 Share #25 Posted May 10, 2018 From what I can see these look legit. There should be three separate pieces ( left / right wing & shield) expertly soldered together. The fakes are usually one piece with attempts to mimic the three piece construction. A loop is a must when assessing the ligitamasy of these wing badges. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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