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Is this a original (Hickok 1943) ? Does it one look right to you guys?

 

 

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Is this a original (Hickok 1943) ? Does it one look right to you guys?

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I just sold six of these that I found in a barn. Notice that the one in your photo has a depression around the lettering, but none of these do:

 

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I just sold six of these that I found in a barn. Notice that the one in your photo has a depression around the lettering, but none of these do:

 

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So is it a fake or just in very good condition?

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Here are the markings of my two original lanyards. Notice, no square indentation around the markings.

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"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb, bastard die for his country" George Pattons speech to the Third Army.

 

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Rambob

The top one sure looks square in to me any close up?

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The top one sure looks square in to me

 

 

I see what appears to be lines as well.....


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$50 aint bad if it's real, which I think it is. Last one I sold on Ebay brought $85 thumbsup.gif


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That deep depression around the lettering does bother me: as I said I recently had six originals all in great shape and not one had that depression. It's also not something I recall seeing in other military leather goods with stamped names and dates.



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You guys sure have good eyes!! Yes, under strong light, like the light from my camera flash. you can make out part of the slight imprint of the stamp on the sides of the markings. There were no lines under or over the markings, just to the sides. BTW. I have had these lanyards for almost twenty years, way before the repoping craze. I agree with Forum Support, that in over 30 years of collecting leather goods from WWII I have NEVER seen indentation like these before. However, using my lanyard as an example I will now agree that rarely, very slight indentations are possible on an original Hikok lanyard. But those deep ones on the suspect lanyard shown in this topic, along with the perfect leather condition, should raise a huge red flag and screams repop to me.

 

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With wear and use I think the box around the letters would not be so nearly pronounced as it is now. I think it'd look similar to the one posted by Rambob after years of use.

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Looks good to me. If the only problem people have is the square indentation around the maker's mark - I have seen several Hickock lanyards with this feature. I actually have one here and have no doubt in my mind it is authentic - I will post some pics later this evening if you would like.

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The two originals I have and another one I know of, have those slight impressions of the dia stamp on them. Heavy oiling may swell up the leather and fill in those impressions. In addition I have found that there may be mixed types of thread on originals, (see middle thread on the bottom one in the last photo), as well as different looking sewing from one to another. I imagine this is because they were sewn in a room with a number of people sewing on different sewing machines. Ray


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It is a stamped in name after all, it would make sense that some would have the indentation of the stamp edge in them, from either being pressed to hard, or the stamps being new. The ebay auction appears to have really deeply cut letters too


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I just purchased the ebay one, was too good a price with the currency conversion to let go, will inspect thoroughly once in hand


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Any one have a pic of a repro?

 

Here's a pic I saved a while ago....I _think_ it's from What Price Glory's website. Note how green the cord is.

 

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Hmmm, odd, the seller relisted the item and someone bought another one quick smart. If it get's relisted again, i'm definately going to be more than suspicious. These things are pretty hard to find in nice condition, let alone having more than a pair identical


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I saw that too, so I contacted him and he said he had 4 of them for sale. Lets hope no more go up for sale. I too bought one we will see.

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I saw that too, so I contacted him and he said he had 4 of them for sale. Lets hope no more go up for sale. I too bought one we will see.

 

As I said above, I recently found six of these and six of the older ones with metal fittings, all in stack of stuff in an old barn. They were not identical looking, though I would be suspicious of of several with the same square marks round the name since I believe that is uncommon.

 

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And there's another one listed. Looks just like the other two assuming he took new pics and didn't just reuse the old ones. In any event, I find the unblemished leather on an item supposedly 66 years old and the markings to be suspect.....especially when the seller has a quantity of them.


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When you receive yours' Rhood, post some pics, i'll do the same and we'll compare. As said, if these things are 99.9 percent identical.........

Definately suspect now, will keep a daily eye to see just how many more keep getting listed


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Just for infomation, about five years ago I bought eight, (8), original unused original 1917 lanyards. You still see a lot of these 1917 lanyards for sale that are still in mint condtion, so mint items are still out there and these lanyards are much older then the WWII ones. I don't believe that lanyards were used a lot and probably the reason why you see so many unused ones around.

 

As I mentioned, each original lanyard may have different types of thread on it and/or different sewing patterns made by different sewing machines on it. The only reason I can think of for this was that the production of the lanyards may have been passed to different sewers as it was being assembled. You can see some of the different sewing patterns and thread in Forum Support's lanyards. I would assume that repros were all sewn on one machine and with the same thread. It does look like the top thread on the ebay one looks a little different then the other two unless it's just the angle of the photo. The stampings on the eBay looks like they were deeply struck which shows the outline of the die more, Ray


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