walt323 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I picked up a few odd photos from a local sale of a vet who had flown H-19's among other planes. This photo was among them and is unmarked. The tail number is 492075. Anyone recognize what type of A/C? Link to post Share on other sites
walt323 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Here is one of the H-19 pics. Written on the back is H-19A 9/1953 43rd Air rescue McCord AFB. Link to post Share on other sites
37thguy Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 B-29 is my guess? Looking for for 37th Division VietNam and earlier Special Forces & USS Hemminger DE 746 items "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." See my FB sales page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1928884587130681/pending/ Link to post Share on other sites
walt323 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 That would be my guess also. I need to research the number. Here are some flak damage photos that were with the group. I haven't figured out what a/c this is either. Link to post Share on other sites
37thguy Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 That hole in the wing musta felt like they were hit with a VW bus! Looking for for 37th Division VietNam and earlier Special Forces & USS Hemminger DE 746 items "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." See my FB sales page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1928884587130681/pending/ Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Scratch my initial comment, that's a B-36 tail. Details of the crash in British Columbia can be found here: http://www.7bwb-36assn.org/b36genhistpg2.html In memory of 1LT Julius C. Goldman, XO of F/330th, 83rd Infantry Division 1944-45. Looking for ETO/MTO P-47 and Tactical Reconnaissance Unit photographs and any items associated with WWII Jewish fighter pilots. Curator of Arms & Armor at the National Museum of the Marine Corps http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/usmfribbons/donation2009.gifhttp://www.usmilitariaforum.com/usmfribbons/donation2010.gifhttp://www.usmilitariaforum.com/usmfribbons/donation2011.gifhttp://www.usmilitariaforum.com/usmfribbons/donation2012.gifhttp://www.usmilitariaforum.com/usmfribbons/donation2013.gifhttp://www.usmilitariaforum.com/usmfribbons/donation2014.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Wailuna Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 ...Here are some flak damage photos that were with the group. I haven't figured out what a/c this is either... The second aircraft might be a shot-up B-26 Invader during the Korean War. Compare the first close up in post #5 with this image of an entire bird showing a long shot of the same area. Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate: "To every man upon this earth death cometh soon or late.And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods." Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Ragan Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Scratch my initial comment, that's a B-36 tail. Details of the crash in British Columbia can be found here: http://www.7bwb-36assn.org/b36genhistpg2.html I agree, it's B-36. Note the radome protruding at the tail which would fit a B-36 as the gunner remotely controlled the tail turret from the pressureized gunners station amid-ships. The B-29 tail turret was not configured like this. Link to post Share on other sites
Wailuna Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 ...tail number is 492075. Anyone recognize what type of A/C? The mystery of B-36B 44-92075 is a very interesting story (link here and here). And a very nice find, Walt. Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate: "To every man upon this earth death cometh soon or late.And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods." Link to post Share on other sites
walt323 Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 Thanks for the links. That is a more interesting and tragic story than I had hoped to find out. Here is an uncropped view of the photo. It looks to be pretty far up in the mountains. Link to post Share on other sites
walt323 Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 Here is one last photo that was with the other. It looks to be 4 Air Force men on horseback. Possibly the recovery team? Link to post Share on other sites
AustinO Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Here is one last photo that was with the other. It looks to be 4 Air Force men on horseback. Possibly the recovery team? I just saw something on TV about this crash, wish I remembered what channel/show.... Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger Gunner USMC Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 The mystery of B-36B 44-92075 is a very interesting story (link here and here). And a very nice find, Walt. The pilot of the B-36 in your photo was Captain Harold L Barry. This aircraft was the first ever to be lost with an atomic load. Barry was killed in a mid-air collision in 1951 with 13 of his crew when an F-51D collided with his B-36 directly behind the cockpit. Barry graduated with my grandfather and I have Barry's uniforms and several personal items that I puchased from his widow's estate sale in the mid 90s. After Christmas I will start a new thread on Barry's career Cpl James A Paris, USMCStinger Missile GunnerH&S Co. Support Bn MCRDSD 2002-2003MarDet Ft Bliss, TX 20032nd Plt 1st Stinger Btry, Okinawa 2003-20042nd Plt A Btry 3rd LAAD BN Camp Pendleton, CA 2004-2006 Please visit my blog: http://ourcountrysheroes.blogspot.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
Wailuna Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 ...The pilot of the B-36 in your photo was Captain Harold L Barry...After Christmas I will start a new thread on Barry's career... Thanks, Stinger, for calling out the connection between Capt. Barry and the crashes of B-36B 44-92075 on February 12, 1950, and B-36D 49-2658 on April 27, 1951. What an astonishing coincidence. And, speaking of coincidence, did you notice that the leader of the flight of P-51s involved in the 49-2658 crash was Capt. Robinson Risner, later a Korean War Ace (eight MiG kills), Vietnam War POW, and two-time winner of the Air Force Cross? Looking forward to seeing your Barry collection and the story of his career. Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate: "To every man upon this earth death cometh soon or late.And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods." Link to post Share on other sites
InvaderHistoricalFoundatio Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 That would be my guess also. I need to research the number. Here are some flak damage photos that were with the group. I haven't figured out what a/c this is either. flak1.jpg flak2.jpg flak3.jpg flak4.jpg These images are definitely from an A-26 Invader, called the B-26 in Korea. They were known for low-level night interdiction missions and took a hell of a lot of flak damage. The zero-point rocket launchers under the wing, as well as the light, wing dihedral and overall shape are a dead giveaway. INTERESTED IN: Anything to do with the Douglas A-26/B-26 Invader, and the men who flew and crewed them. Photos, Patches, Manuals, anything, and everything. Units of interest for me, in particular: 5th AF: 3rd Bomb Group, 7th AF: 319 BG, 9th AF: 386th BG, 391st BG, 409th BG, 410th BG, 416th BG, 10th AF: 12th BG, 341st BG, 12th AF: 47th BG, 5th AF: 17th Bomb Wing, 452nd Bomb Wing 1st Special Operations Wing, 606th SOS, 609th SOS, plus all of the ANG and other miscellaneous units. I'm slowly putting all of my work into a Wiki-based museum, the Invader Historical Foundation - the most complete, most accurate reference for Invaders anywhere. http://claybornglobal.com/IHF/index.php/Main_Page Link to post Share on other sites
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