LE LOUP DES MERS Posted April 24 #1 Posted April 24 I honestly don't know where to put this so feel free to move this topic where you see fit. I have been noticing that ucp/acu's aka mw2 ranger camo (yes ucp is also known as that in 2026) are starting to get popular with military collecting/reenactors and airsofters. Even i have to admit looking at ucp camo today its so bad its kinda good. But 5 years ago ucp was just straight garbage any collector would or at least 90% would agree. Don't get me wrong it still is a bad camo but its also starting to become drippy. I remember 5 years ago surplus stores would refuse to buy anything ucp/acu. Now they are actually starting to buy it more frequently and they are selling it frequently too. Even gwot mannequins are starting to pop up more frequently. And some of the acu gwot displays look cool like it hits differently today vs 5 years ago. I think 2 things helped make this camo popular. First is definitely the og mw2 and second id say warfare. Watching warfare actually made acu's look cool. And we can't forget mw2 ranger camo, I can't lie looking back mw2 ranger camo does hit differently now. But what are your thoughts?
Armygas Posted April 27 #4 Posted April 27 After 130 plus views I was hopeful someone more well versed would reply, sans that, I will take a shot at this question. I think time has shown that every collectable comes into its time and place as a desired item at some point. I have only been collecting military items for 50 plus years but can remember when OG-107 jungle fatigues were stripped of their in country patches and the shirt dumpstered. That said, there is a sticky for 'show your ACU's" and I posted a few bits under-- Trousers ACU and Marpat By Régis, September 1, 2025 in REAL OR WHAT? Both of which I feel would say YES, that ACU or UCP and even OCP are and or will be collectable to at least some level. I would go so far as to suggest that 'new' or 'young' or those of very limited funding will be well served by collecting any one of these modern patterns. I wish someone would post a checklist of all the many variations of these uniforms while they are plentiful and nice examplars can be photographed. You may have seen the BDU outline posted by 32sbct back in 2013, it was very helpful in the ID of BDU variations. Since I mostly collect post Vietnam women's uniforms, I only keep what I call a "Library" of Army camo uniforms. What that means to me is one of each model or style for each camo pattern, (BDU, D-BDU, DCU, UCP, OCP and some of the OG's), and a few of the USAF, USN and USMC types as well. As an old guy who never played a video game I had to look up what "mw2" was, hopefully I've got it right and this answers the question. I would like to see samples of your collection when you have time. Cheers, Armygas
yellowhammer history Posted April 27 #5 Posted April 27 30 minutes ago, Armygas said: I wish someone would post a checklist of all the many variations of these uniforms while they are plentiful and nice examplars can be photographed. https://youtu.be/WTLkyRam6Ck?si=fueJGoOvkXmfAe87
LE LOUP DES MERS Posted April 27 Author #6 Posted April 27 Id say movies and video games probably helped more then just time. Yeah you could argue the gwot vets are wanting to recreate the exact loadout they wore in Afghanistan for display. But I think for a camo that's ugly getting popular is more about the younger collectors watching warfare and wanting to recreate that look. I dont blame them putting together a warfare mannequin would look pretty cool. Or seeing the photos of sf dudes wearing acus and airsofters/collectors wanting to recreate that look. And as far as the original mw2 when it first came out in 2009 dudes where enlisting in the army just became they wanted to look like the rangers in mw2. Not joking either enlistment rates actually went up because of modern warfare at least the military claims anyway. But there are interviews of gwot vets saying they joined because the recruiter asked if they played mw2. But the people who were kids that played mw2 are now older and want to have impressions that look like the game. But of course I could be totally wrong and maybe its just time like you said. But im sure both played a part.
LE LOUP DES MERS Posted April 27 Author #7 Posted April 27 But you're right about jungle fatigues, I heard from older collectors in the 70s, 80s, and 90s and even after Vietnam ended. That jungle fatigue were dirt cheap to the point where surplus stores refused to buy any. I don't know if this is true but an old guy working at a surplus store. Claimed after Vietnam ended you could go to your nearest dumpster and see piles of jungle fatigues, m1 helmets and m56 gear. I believe him on the jungle fatigues but not sure if I believe the rest of that statement.
Armygas Posted April 27 #8 Posted April 27 Yellowhammer, Thanks for the reminder of the History Youtube channel, I have looked at most of his uniform pieces and find them most interesting. My comment was in search of a more traditional "paper checklist" kind of thing. I also would like to have all of the various types such as; female, maternity, A2CU, IHWCU, coveralls and others listed. Maybe this will be book material for a future author complete with photos of the uniforms, tags and details followed up with matching insignia and field gear. It could be a great reference for collectors of a galaxy far, far away. The table display of modern kit, was part of a small local military reunion a few of us did in 2019. I feel there is great opportunity for collectors to not only gather these uniforms for a collection but to participate in public venues to share their stories and relate their experiences using a fully kitted and uniformed mannequin or two. Cheers, Armygas
KurtA Posted April 28 #9 Posted April 28 The main problem with “collectability” for these is the Velcro insignia. It’s too easy to create a uniform for a rare unit. Just pull off the First Army patch and slap on a SF patch. In future decades, there will be no way to truly confirm if the patches are original to a jacket. So, my belief is this really limits interest. (I know it does for me)
everforward Posted April 28 #10 Posted April 28 10 minutes ago, KurtA said: The main problem with “collectability” for these is the Velcro insignia. It’s too easy to create a uniform for a rare unit. Just pull off the First Army patch and slap on a SF patch. In future decades, there will be no way to truly confirm if the patches are original to a jacket. So, my belief is this really limits interest. (I know it does for me) In the case of OCP uniforms, IMHO probably the best way is ask someone you know (who is still in) for a set that has been worn to the need of replacement, or someone who just got out and is willing to part with a set......that way you have provenance from day one.
Rhscott Posted April 28 #11 Posted April 28 After I retired I kept 1 pair of ACU pants and turned them into shorts (they are still the hottest non breathing fabric shorts I have) and took the rest to the thrift store. I also had 5 new sets of OCP FR uniforms direct from Afghanistan I could not wear CONUS and I sold the crap outta them for good $$ cause they were hard to obtain then. People collect everything; so everything has value to someone.
yellowhammer history Posted April 28 #12 Posted April 28 15 hours ago, Armygas said: Yellowhammer, Thanks for the reminder of the History Youtube channel, I have looked at most of his uniform pieces and find them most interesting. My comment was in search of a more traditional "paper checklist" kind of thing. I also would like to have all of the various types such as; female, maternity, A2CU, IHWCU, coveralls and others listed. Maybe this will be book material for a future author complete with photos of the uniforms, tags and details followed up with matching insignia and field gear. It could be a great reference for collectors of a galaxy far, far away. The table display of modern kit, was part of a small local military reunion a few of us did in 2019. I feel there is great opportunity for collectors to not only gather these uniforms for a collection but to participate in public venues to share their stories and relate their experiences using a fully kitted and uniformed mannequin or two. Cheers, Armygas A book would be nice.
yellowhammer history Posted April 28 #13 Posted April 28 I have a few acus as well as gear. I've noticed that it's hard to find named uniforms but named gear is shows up a lot more frequently. I noticed this mag pouch had a name in it the other day.
Nkomo Posted April 28 #14 Posted April 28 As a GWOT collector, I am very particular with what ACUs I put into the collection. I will only add fully provenanced sets, fully provenanced SF/SOF sets, and the sets that have been modified in country. As others have said, the collectibility of ACUs will be effected by the removable insignia and also due to how unpopular it was with soldiers. There are some exceptions to the rule of course. I can think of the insane prices that the Crye made ACUs go for ($700 to $1000 for a set) and some of the experimental sets also command good money. The common, unnamed ACUs are going to be a drug on the market for the forseeable future. I mentioned the modified sets above. I am attaching a picture of what I am talking about and a picture of one in use with SF/SOF in Iraq. These modified shirts were made by taking the sleeves from an ACU top and adding said sleeves to a t-shirt base. These are not the same as the issued ACU combat shirts. These were done in theater or were done in sew shops around the bases. This type modification was also seen in both DCU and woodland as well.
McLenn2025 Posted April 28 #15 Posted April 28 On 4/24/2026 at 5:04 PM, LE LOUP DES MERS said: I honestly don't know where to put this so feel free to move this topic where you see fit. I have been noticing that ucp/acu's aka mw2 ranger camo (yes ucp is also known as that in 2026) are starting to get popular with military collecting/reenactors and airsofters. Even i have to admit looking at ucp camo today its so bad its kinda good. But 5 years ago ucp was just straight garbage any collector would or at least 90% would agree. Don't get me wrong it still is a bad camo but its also starting to become drippy. I remember 5 years ago surplus stores would refuse to buy anything ucp/acu. Now they are actually starting to buy it more frequently and they are selling it frequently too. Even gwot mannequins are starting to pop up more frequently. And some of the acu gwot displays look cool like it hits differently today vs 5 years ago. I think 2 things helped make this camo popular. First is definitely the og mw2 and second id say warfare. Watching warfare actually made acu's look cool. And we can't forget mw2 ranger camo, I can't lie looking back mw2 ranger camo does hit differently now. But what are your thoughts? I see where you're coming from! I used to think that it was downright ugly, but looking at photographs of UCP being used in combat, it looks kinda good now. But I think, that the main readon for that is, that they are all dirty in these photos. And when dirty, they were decent at camouflaging the person wesring it. However, I heard, that even on base during deployments, they wouldn't let soldiers wear them all muddied up, but that they had to look fresh... So I see your point and I, too, think, that now they are better looking than they used to. But their historical value has always been there with GWOT. However, I think, that there is this kind of phenomenon in the collecting filed, that more recent history doesn't appeal as much ad history, that took place a decade or so ago... But that could just be me haha Movies helped at establishing UCP in the collectibg circles and fashion industry, too, I think
McLenn2025 Posted April 28 #16 Posted April 28 On 4/27/2026 at 2:21 AM, Armygas said: After 130 plus views I was hopeful someone more well versed would reply, sans that, I will take a shot at this question. I think time has shown that every collectable comes into its time and place as a desired item at some point. I have only been collecting military items for 50 plus years but can remember when OG-107 jungle fatigues were stripped of their in country patches and the shirt dumpstered. That said, there is a sticky for 'show your ACU's" and I posted a few bits under-- Trousers ACU and Marpat By Régis, September 1, 2025 in REAL OR WHAT? Both of which I feel would say YES, that ACU or UCP and even OCP are and or will be collectable to at least some level. I would go so far as to suggest that 'new' or 'young' or those of very limited funding will be well served by collecting any one of these modern patterns. I wish someone would post a checklist of all the many variations of these uniforms while they are plentiful and nice examplars can be photographed. You may have seen the BDU outline posted by 32sbct back in 2013, it was very helpful in the ID of BDU variations. Since I mostly collect post Vietnam women's uniforms, I only keep what I call a "Library" of Army camo uniforms. What that means to me is one of each model or style for each camo pattern, (BDU, D-BDU, DCU, UCP, OCP and some of the OG's), and a few of the USAF, USN and USMC types as well. As an old guy who never played a video game I had to look up what "mw2" was, hopefully I've got it right and this answers the question. I would like to see samples of your collection when you have time. Cheers, Armygas I totally agree. However, I, too, think, that finding "original" UCPs without patches added is gonna be a nightmare due to velcro... It will be interesting to see if the collecting community will be able to come up with ways to determine if a patch was added later or not and therefor solve the "velcro-issue"...
easterneagle87 Posted April 29 #17 Posted April 29 I hope they will be. I had no desire to collect acu items as I was a woodland bdu guy. However, between buying lots and flea markets/yard sales I ended up some. What to do!?! Display them. Got some Velcro panels and installed them on the sliding closet doors. Here’s what I have. P S …. I have EXTRAS to trade!
easterneagle87 Posted April 29 #18 Posted April 29 Then I found a acu nurse tops so I pinned non-Velcro patches to the back of it. Additionally I have an ACU aviator’s top, but not displayed.
Armygas Posted April 29 #19 Posted April 29 It seems most of agree that original pieces straight from the veteran are the preferred items to collect. Time will tell how the collectors market views those of unknown or disputed heritage. These two photos exemplify the veteran direct acquisition. I worked with the owner for ten years after his time in the box. He was a US Navy EOD tech PO1, at various times attached to a CIF unit. He wore all of these uniforms during his deployments, based on intel, situation and local advisement. Left to right: DCU ALT made by Propper, note added on hook & pile square for Master EOD badge, Crye Multicam, In-country UCP combat shirt ALT, Local area camo top worn with Carhartt trousers in sand colour, off the rack civys. As Nkomo mentioned these ALT combat shirts were made from a wide variety of components based on what was available at the time and location of the team. I have a few more items for this EOD tech, and I did an informal interview with him as he dumped his two sea bags on the deck for the first time since coming back home. It was a difficult talk for him even a number of years after his time in country. A real American, truly nice guy and an awesome EOD tech. I consider it a great privilege and honor to preserve this set of USN EOD GWOT uniforms. Cheers, Armygas
Nkomo Posted April 29 #20 Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Armygas said: It seems most of agree that original pieces straight from the veteran are the preferred items to collect. Time will tell how the collectors market views those of unknown or disputed heritage. These two photos exemplify the veteran direct acquisition. I worked with the owner for ten years after his time in the box. He was a US Navy EOD tech PO1, at various times attached to a CIF unit. He wore all of these uniforms during his deployments, based on intel, situation and local advisement. Left to right: DCU ALT made by Propper, note added on hook & pile square for Master EOD badge, Crye Multicam, In-country UCP combat shirt ALT, Local area camo top worn with Carhartt trousers in sand colour, off the rack civys. As Nkomo mentioned these ALT combat shirts were made from a wide variety of components based on what was available at the time and location of the team. I have a few more items for this EOD tech, and I did an informal interview with him as he dumped his two sea bags on the deck for the first time since coming back home. It was a difficult talk for him even a number of years after his time in country. A real American, truly nice guy and an awesome EOD tech. I consider it a great privilege and honor to preserve this set of USN EOD GWOT uniforms. Cheers, Armygas Those are some really nice uniforms, especially the Iraqi 36 Commando shirt. Some rare pieces shown there.
vzemke Posted April 29 #21 Posted April 29 Anything is collectible, and anyone collecting GWOT either now or in the future will not be able to ignore ACU/UCP. The pants will eventually be harder to find and likely to the point of being expensive in large sizes and good condition, as that’s always the case with Militaria from any era.
mysteriousoozlefinch Posted May 10 #22 Posted May 10 It's not something I'll seek out, but if I find a set in a thrift store or a surplus store tote for a good price with most of the patches I'll bite. Will they resell well? I doubt it. This one's all-Velcro with no unit patches, but it was only a few bucks. One exception was a weird Navy UCP I found on eBay I could match with photos of them being worn.
yellowhammer history Posted May 10 #23 Posted May 10 I seem to remember seeing a ocp or multicam acu with a navy rank on it at a trift store a few years ago. I thought it was odd but didn't pay much attention to it.
Rhscott Posted May 10 #24 Posted May 10 22 minutes ago, yellowhammer history said: I seem to remember seeing a ocp or multicam acu with a navy rank on it at a trift store a few years ago. I thought it was odd but didn't pay much attention to it. I was at Ft Jackson, SC attending a USAREC NCOIC course in 2007 and saw lots of Navy personnel there in Army ACUs. When asked they said they “volunteered” for a rotation helping the Army in order to get a prime choice next duty slot guaranteed. By 2007 the Army had rotated almost every Brigade thru Iraq once and had a personnel shortage that some high up Navy official concocted this idea to help. Most were used to guard ECPs and do On-FOB duties for the tour. They kept the Navy rank which got confusing at the officer level as none of the officers matched Army officer rank names. we actually felt sorry for them.
McLenn2025 Posted May 11 #25 Posted May 11 On 4/29/2026 at 2:13 AM, easterneagle87 said: I hope they will be. I had no desire to collect acu items as I was a woodland bdu guy. However, between buying lots and flea markets/yard sales I ended up some. What to do!?! Display them. Got some Velcro panels and installed them on the sliding closet doors. Here’s what I have. P S …. I have EXTRAS to trade! That is an impressive collection! And a great idea with the velcro panels! Jules
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