Persian Gulf Command Posted March 17 #3 Posted March 17 I know this is Simplistic and leaves out a great deal of our capabilities! It all has to do with the "Eyes in the Sky (Space)! Our Satellite Technology is too good!! Same reason the Russians were not able to take over the Ukraine when they had miles of Armor lined up on the road to Kiev. And now it is Trench Warfare in the East, or West depending on your prospective.
Allen0820 Posted March 17 #4 Posted March 17 Iran fell? Seems to me that they are doing a lot of shooting still; and with everything we have, the Strait of Hormuz is not navigable for U.S. and western nations. Who knows, maybe we have them "just where we want'em, right? On second maybe not.
P-59A Posted March 17 Author #5 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Allen0820 said: Iran fell? Seems to me that they are doing a lot of shooting still; and with everything we have, the Strait of Hormuz is not navigable for U.S. and western nations. Who knows, maybe we have them "just where we want'em, right? On second maybe not. Mmmm, maybe a different word like falling would sound better, but no one can say they are on the rise or they are holding thier own or have reached a stalemate. The truth is they are bleeding out. Nothing changes that. Iran fell at the beginning. Kind of like a guy who has a fatal wound but keeps fighting, They have nothing more to loose. The clips explaine this. Give them a view,they lay out everything.
yellowhammer history Posted March 17 #6 Posted March 17 Hopefully that's true and this is over soon....
P-59A Posted March 17 Author #7 Posted March 17 Hey Hammer, I got tired of all the miss information and miss direction. I went looking for a site that could give me the nuts and bolts of what just happened and how they did it with out hype or opinion. It calls out what Iran did right and how that was countered. In short it looks like Iran planned well for a war. The failure was they thought we were going to fight that war. We are not doing that As Pesian Gulf said nothing is mentioned about "Eyes in the sky" in any detail, but itis covered. This site also covers unconfirmed ships in play. How the first 40 minutes played out was very interesting. That was when Iran lost. They are being bled out in a very methodical, preplaned fashion. Sleep well, all is good. David
The Rooster Posted March 17 #8 Posted March 17 I do not think it is a good idea to get proud or cocky or underestimate the enemy in any way. It is not over until the enemy is down and done.
268th C.A. Posted March 17 #9 Posted March 17 Cut off the head, the worst is already here. thanks to the open borders policy. I could go on & on. Pass a bill and pay America's defenders.
The Rooster Posted March 17 #10 Posted March 17 3 hours ago, Persian Gulf Command said: I know this is Simplistic and leaves out a great deal of our capabilities! It all has to do with the "Eyes in the Sky (Space)! Our Satellite Technology is too good!! Same reason the Russians were not able to take over the Ukraine when they had miles of Armor lined up on the road to Kiev. And now it is Trench Warfare in the East, or West depending on your prospective. Holy cow!!! Since you mentioned satellites...... Ive been looking at the night sky with NVG's and there are so many satellites flying around, it boggles my mind. I see them in singles and in pairs crossing each others paths going every direction. Lately Im seeing pairs of them side by side going in the same direction and one following behind another going in the same direction. ! Cant prove it, but I think the US flew that missile over Ukraine that destroys electronics and thats what stopped the Russian Convoys ? Its a cruise missile type thing, that puts out an electro magnetic pulse that frys electronics. Stops vehicles.. Like a nuke with out the blast. From Google.. The Counter-electronics High-Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP) is a U.S. Air Force cruise missile designed to fry electronic systems using targeted high-power microwave pulses. Tested in 2012, this, Boeing built weapon disables computers and electronics without causing collateral physical damage or casualties. Key Aspects of CHAMP Technology Targeted Destruction: Unlike nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) weapons that create widespread blackouts, CHAMP is designed for surgical strikes, allowing specific enemy radar, data systems, and computers to be targeted. High-Power Microwaves (HPM): The missile flies at low altitudes and emits bursts of microwave energy, acting as a non-lethal, non-kinetic weapon. Operational Success: During tests in 2012, the system effectively neutralized electronic systems in a two-story building, even disabling the cameras used for recording the test. Follow-on Technology: A newer version called HiJENKS (High-Powered Joint Electromagnetic Non-Kinetic Strike Weapon) is designed to be more compact and deployable via drones or diverse aircraft, improving on the original CHAMP capability. AI Overview Yes, the CHAMP (Counter-electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project) missile is specifically designed to stop vehicles, along with other electronic systems, by frying their circuits with high-power microwaves. It disrupts electronic control units in vehicles without causing structural damage or human I think that champ stopped the Rusky convoys. ?
easterneagle87 Posted March 17 #11 Posted March 17 Do remember that a "multi" passport holding CIVILIAN, aka Elon Musk has control over A LOT of satellites and where and WHO has access to that information. The US has great capabilities and OUTSTANDING personnel, however, Iran is down but it is not out. Yes, the techo side of warfare has evolved beyond what we can imagine. Prayers for our service people and that they will be taken care of when they come home.
P-59A Posted March 17 Author #12 Posted March 17 4 hours ago, P-59A said: I went to the Navy Decoded web site that hosted all the l.inks including the link that was pulled that I posted and I no longer see it. It was insightfull. I hope you saw it before it was pulled.
P-59A Posted March 17 Author #13 Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, P-59A said: I went to the Navy Decoded web site that hosted all the l.inks including the link that was pulled that I posted and I no longer see it. It was insightfull. I hope you saw it before it was pulled. What you see now is not what was posted.
P-59A Posted March 17 Author #14 Posted March 17 The link that was pulled in part talked about what is covered in this link.The difference between them is the detail. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=5bcf35ed6ba32f467b9db3cd9d90d15b55a9941563817887a43bd3c409bbeea1JmltdHM9MTc3MzcwNTYwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=090314c8-1a7e-6b3a-0591-02761bec6a11&psq=US+Navy+laser+armed+ship&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9kZWZlbnNlZmVlZHMuY29tL21pbGl0YXJ5LXRlY2gvbmF2eS9sYXNlci13ZWFwb24tc3lzdGVtcy9oZWxpb3MtbGFzZXIv The other part of the post covered this, but in more detail. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=700055357af615ff009aa268e5aad110e72324a63f1c4a7806c860ac775bfd7dJmltdHM9MTc3MzcwNTYwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=090314c8-1a7e-6b3a-0591-02761bec6a11&psq=US+Navy+oden+armed+ship&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYXJteXJlY29nbml0aW9uLmNvbS9uZXdzL25hdnktbmV3cy8yMDI2L3Utcy1uYXZ5LWRlc3Ryb3llci1kZXBsb3lzLW9kaW4tbGFzZXItZGlyZWN0ZWQtZW5lcmd5LXdlYXBvbi1zeXN0ZW0tZHVyaW5nLW9wZXJhdGlvbi1lcGljLWZ1cnk
Salvage Sailor Posted March 18 #17 Posted March 18 This is becoming tedious, we all have access to youtube videos if we wish to view them. This is the Military History Discussion section, not the Movie and TV Reviews section. Either compose a lucid discussion on the Iranian strikes or cease posting the links and promoting subscriptions. I'm one click away from ending this topic.
Silvio Posted March 18 #18 Posted March 18 When has America won? What are the strategic or political goals now? You kill the supreme leader, there is immediately a new one, albeit not in complete condition; okay, he gets killed, then comes the next son or nephew or second cousin, and so on. As long as there are no ground operations with infantry/occupation, Iran will continue to exist in this form anyway. Or is there hope for an uprising? Oil trade is at a standstill in the Strait of Hormuz. According to the data, Iran can keep the street closed with relatively limited resources. Every week is one too many. You can bomb until you drop, but the regime stays right where it is.
P-59A Posted March 19 Author #19 Posted March 19 5 hours ago, Silvio said: When has America won? What are the strategic or political goals now? You kill the supreme leader, there is immediately a new one, albeit not in complete condition; okay, he gets killed, then comes the next son or nephew or second cousin, and so on. As long as there are no ground operations with infantry/occupation, Iran will continue to exist in this form anyway. Or is there hope for an uprising? Oil trade is at a standstill in the Strait of Hormuz. According to the data, Iran can keep the street closed with relatively limited resources. Every week is one too many. You can bomb until you drop, but the regime stays right where it is. So, If I understand you correctly and please correct me if auto translate or auto correct didn't work as you intended, but it looks as if you are saying no one should ever do anything at any time because of what?...the out come in the future is unknown to you? First off your first statement wrong. The CCCP fell after a number of US Presidents did this and that untill they collapsed under thier own weight. Not one shot fired, no boots on the ground. I have no idea if you remember that, but history records it. What political goals are you talking about? The conditions stated are the goal. Degrade the military capabilities across the board, all of it including command and controle. As to what the people of Iran do is beyond me. The Crown Prince is laying the ground work for what he wants to do. Maybe the CIA and or Mossad have plans in place. I have no idea, but we do know the military planning has been years in the making I suspect other plans are in play. As for oil, that too has been adressed. A number of web sites cover geo politics talk about oil and all the fail safe messures put in place since the oil crisis ofthe 70's. You might wish to do what I didand dig down on that. They say the same thing. What you see on allof them is oil hitting 100 USD a barrel. The US and other countries have lots of oil, but it is not practcal to tap it at under 100 USD. The geopolitical sites break it down. The Straight of H is a sting, that is true, but it is not long term. Again the geo political sites will explaine why. This is what your missing on the Straight. It's short term effect on us, that is being addressed now as we speak. As for the Republic of Iran, it's simple. No oil equals no money. No money equals no power. You are going to have to explaine to me how your power dynamic works. Nothing in this life is free as I understand it. Let the Republic of Iran shut down the Straight, they are cutting thier own throats, not ours. Last but not least, we have had 47 years of this from them. If you think they were playing by the rules you are wrong. They played by thier own rules for far tool long. They ran thier game now it's time for them to fade away. if you do not have money you can't play, no money for proxys, no money for weapons of any kind, no money to pay your troops, no place to live, nothing.We do not need boots on the ground, The fall of the CCCP is the proof of concept,
Bluehawk Posted March 19 #21 Posted March 19 26 minutes ago, easterneagle87 said: time to end this topic. Not so long as American military forces and personnel are in the fight.
cutiger83 Posted March 19 #22 Posted March 19 26 minutes ago, Bluehawk said: Not so long as American military forces and personnel are in the fight. Time to end it when it turns political. This forum is not about politics which has helped keep it civil.
easterneagle87 Posted March 19 #23 Posted March 19 46 minutes ago, Bluehawk said: Not so long as American military forces and personnel are in the fight. This forum is to enrich the collector field. Not tactics or hypotheticals as to the current administration's pursuit of a "war". When our service members bring back souvenirs of this current folly, then create a topic for it, until then, this is not the avenue this forum was created for. End Stop
copper252 Posted March 19 #24 Posted March 19 I wonder if they are going to make a new Campaign Medal for this? Or just keep the GWOT-E for it?
P-59A Posted March 19 Author #25 Posted March 19 3 hours ago, easterneagle87 said: This forum is to enrich the collector field. Not tactics or hypotheticals as to the current administration's pursuit of a "war". When our service members bring back souvenirs of this current folly, then create a topic for it, until then, this is not the avenue this forum was created for. End Stop This is the military history discussion section. This section has nothing to do with collecting. Military tactics are worthy of discussion and what just happened is historical by every measure.
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