There are still some Great things to be found on ebay.

[The Rooster]

Greetings all. 

Just when I was starting to think ebay was tapped out for good deals,

I was able to find this. 

I know what everything is except for the goggles.

At first I didnt think they were U.S. But they are.

I have no idea what type or if they were used much?

At first I assumed they were British or German.

Cheers!

[ludwigh1980]

Great score. I will be following to learn more about the goggles as I have not seen this type before. As my bank account typically shows, there are quite a few good "Buys" on ebay at times. (Good "buy" to my money!)

[aznation]

Nice catch there Rooster.  But if you don't mind just a little criticism, you might want to get those nails trimmed a bit, lol. :)

[aznation]

Regarding the googles, check out:

 

http://www.44thcollectorsavenue.com/Militaria/WWII/US/Field-gear-and-equipment/US2-F-000083.html#:~:text=44th Collectors Avenue - US Army,US2-F-000083

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/wwii-us-army-navy-pilots-goggles-h-b-inc-ww2-388-c-7484a57bdf#:~:text=Description,really minor age and wear.

https://www.lot-art.com/auction-lots/WWII-US-ARMY-NAVY-PILOTS-GOGGLES-HB-INC-WW2/388-wwii_u-17.4.21-milestone

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintageb-flying-goggles-box-pre-wwii-4949595335

[dmar836]

I don't believe these were "issued goggles before the AN6530s." There were the Resistals and then B-series that covered most of the 1920s-1930s. Many, many civi models some of which found their way into military use but that's only anecdotal. Didn't see that maker in the pre-war stuff but didn't search exhaustively. Did see they made some welding glasses but...

It is funny how every sale description parrots the same description - none of it with any evidence at all. 

The A-11, wired receivers, and mask are nice but the goggles fall into the post war era to me. Happy to be proven wrong with data. 

Dave

[The Rooster]

1 hour ago, aznation said:

Nice catch there Rooster.  But if you don't mind just a little criticism, you might want to get those nails trimmed a bit, lol. :)

Yea? Everyone is a critic....

SMH....

[The Rooster]

1 hour ago, aznation said:

Regarding the googles, check out:

 

http://www.44thcollectorsavenue.com/Militaria/WWII/US/Field-gear-and-equipment/US2-F-000083.html#:~:text=44th Collectors Avenue - US Army,US2-F-000083

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/wwii-us-army-navy-pilots-goggles-h-b-inc-ww2-388-c-7484a57bdf#:~:text=Description,really minor age and wear.

https://www.lot-art.com/auction-lots/WWII-US-ARMY-NAVY-PILOTS-GOGGLES-HB-INC-WW2/388-wwii_u-17.4.21-milestone

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintageb-flying-goggles-box-pre-wwii-4949595335

Thank you AZ Sir.... They all say these were pre war private purchase but widely used by Navy and Army pilots during the war.

For all three pieces, I did good on this. Now I need a styrofoam head!

Maybe a flak helmet.. Prob for sure a flak helmet.

 

"Up for auction is a very nice pair of HB INC Aviator Goggles. From what I read these were an early war, private purchase model, that was used by the US Army / USN pilots before the AN-6530 came along. These have a black composite frame marked /"H. B. Inc Pat Pend/", plastic lenses and what looks like rubber eye padding that looks like a leather color."

[aznation]

SOURCE:  Newspapers.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Rooster]

1 hour ago, aznation said:

SOURCE:  Newspapers.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you

AZ Sir!

The Rooster!

Looks like its all legit WW2!

[The Rooster]

A new display with all the pieces... coming soon.

[dmar836]

Rooster, Great M4. That will be a nice setup. With that helmet and mask the B-8 goggles would be a better representation to me.

I would love to see pics of those goggles used before or during WWII. I'm just not seeing it and am wondering what I'm missing as everyone else seems to think they are pre-war civi used by the AAC. Painting aluminum frames doesn't appear to be very common and the shape of the vents is very modern looking. Their construction(pad material, stitching, pressed in lenses, etc) just looks so post war to me. 

FWIW, I'm not trying to create upset but would really like to see this one run up the flagpole.

Dave

 

[The Rooster]

8 hours ago, dmar836 said:

Rooster, Great M4. That will be a nice setup. With that helmet and mask the B-8 goggles would be a better representation to me.

I would love to see pics of those goggles used before or during WWII. I'm just not seeing it and am wondering what I'm missing as everyone else seems to think they are pre-war civi used by the AAC. Painting aluminum frames doesn't appear to be very common and the shape of the vents is very modern looking. Their construction(pad material, stitching, pressed in lenses, etc) just looks so post war to me. 

FWIW, I'm not trying to create upset but would really like to see this one run up the flagpole.

Dave

 

Thank you kindly Dave.

I dont know for sure but Ive read several times now from

several different sources that Armed Forces pilots wore them

as a private purchase item. Pre war and early war....?

until that standard model came out. 

I cant swear to it but thats what Ive been reading.

And I cant find anything definitive, like a photo or

anything. But AZ did find quite a bit about the goggles maker...

It is a decent M4. I was drawn to it by the condition and the price.

Cheers!

Dave

 

Heres a description of a pair that sold at auction...

Courtesy of AZNATIONs provided link.

 

WWII US ARMY/ NAVY PILOTS GOGGLES H.B. INC. WW2

[ Translate ]

These H.B. Inc goggles are an early pre War set of aviator goggles. They were commonly used by the US Army / USN pilots before the AN-6530 came along. They are made up of a black composite frame marked "H.B.Inc Pat Pend". They additionally have rubber padding and plastic shaded lenses. The elastic strap in back is in good condition still with a lot of elasticity. Overall a nice set of goggles with only really minor age and wear.

[dmar836]

Hey Dave!

Very cool. There was a direct lineage of goggles before the B-7/AN6530s all the way back to the Air Mail days. This dispels the repeated seller assumption so I hope someone can come up with some better info. Should be easier to find in old Navy pics but unlikely in USAAC/AAF pics IMO. 

I feel like anytime I open my mouth anymore I am stepping on someone's truth but these things were much more publicly and happily discussed in the past.

Best,

Dave