Dirk Posted November 12, 2023 Share #251 Posted November 12, 2023 “so I’m wondering if it might have been a friendly exchange amongst brothers in arms? Alternatively, would they have been freely available at the shop in Shanghai where they were made or were they made exclusively for the US Marines?” Brig is as good as any here at spotting good Soochows, so if he likes it that’s a big plus. As you pointed out the Royal Welch Fusiliers were in Shanghai for the 37-38 fighting. They would have been deployed west of the Marines position, just past the soochow creek (Jessefield Park area). The Fusiliers has a long and storied relationship with the Marines, going back to the Boxer Rebellion days, when they both mutually supported each other during the assault on Tientsin. That tradition continued in Shanghai during the 37 fighting. This mutual respect would have extended to the city’s bars, dancehalls, and nightclubs behind the front lines. Friendships were formed, drinks and gifts exchanged. So it’s not surprising a Fusilier got a Soochow. The medal was most likely marketed exclusively to Marines and could be ordered by any Marine through their Company’s HQ section. Or by US Navy personnel serving around Shanghai. I am sure among US forces this medal maker’s shop was well known. There was no rule on how many one could order at a time, or who qualified (even extending to family members), so it’s possible your friends fathers uncle asked for, paid for, or was given the medal by a Marine during his time in Shanghai. As for the actual maker, no one knows for sure….although their are several candidate jewelry shops identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted November 12, 2023 Share #252 Posted November 12, 2023 Here is my 1937 example. Have not yet researched the recipient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted November 12, 2023 Share #253 Posted November 12, 2023 Here is my 1937 example to a Pearl harbor survivor from the USS Maryland . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted November 12, 2023 Share #254 Posted November 12, 2023 You guys are killing me. I've owned 3 or 4 over the years and sold or traded them all. The last one out of necessity. It's on my list to pick one or two up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Tee Jay Posted November 13, 2023 Share #255 Posted November 13, 2023 Hey @Dirk thanks for all that information. I was aware that there were some close links with the USMC and the Royal Welch with you guys presenting to us a set of your colours in a commemoration in Wrexham in North Wales. Sadly, the regiment was amalgamated with the Royal Regiment of Wales to form the Royal Welsh Regiment, but we still have a Regimental Museum at Caernarfon in North Wales so I’ll approach them this week and do a bit more digging into H. E. Williams. It’s always interesting to look into the service records of old soldiers that are no longer with us, especially at this time of year. Thanks again, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted November 14, 2023 Share #256 Posted November 14, 2023 Mark please keep us updated on anything you find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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