Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #26 Posted June 10, 2007 I have also a saber that looks like a 1902, but it is a modern 1902 presentation saber that was given by the SGM ASSN Heidelberg to someone, sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #27 Posted June 10, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #28 Posted June 10, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #29 Posted June 10, 2007 The "US" letters. They are not intertwined as on other 1902's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #30 Posted June 10, 2007 The eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #31 Posted June 10, 2007 details of the etching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #32 Posted June 10, 2007 Toldeo, Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #33 Posted June 10, 2007 The proved mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattle Posted June 10, 2007 Share #34 Posted June 10, 2007 The engraved scabbard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathologist Posted June 11, 2007 Share #35 Posted June 11, 2007 I have also a saber that looks like a 1902, but it is a modern 1902 presentation saber that was given by the SGM ASSN Heidelberg to someone, sometime. It looks to *be* a regulation 1902. The Spanish swords date from the 1960s, I think, to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john31 Posted January 19, 2009 Share #36 Posted January 19, 2009 Figured i would reopen this post because i just bought my first m1902. Horstmann, and name is engraved in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share #37 Posted January 19, 2009 John, That is a very nice named Horstmann sword. You know, these swords are just like potato chips... you can't eat just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john31 Posted January 19, 2009 Share #38 Posted January 19, 2009 Sarge your right about that, now all i need to do is find a Eickhorn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathologist Posted January 19, 2009 Share #39 Posted January 19, 2009 Sarge your right about that, now all i need to do is find a Eickhorn! Your sword might very well be an Eickhorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted January 20, 2009 Share #40 Posted January 20, 2009 Well, I only own two of these swords, but perhaps I can add to the discussion. First up is an earlier Horstmann with a full dress saber knot. It looks like the guard has a slight bend to it and there is one little ding in the scabbard near the tip -- probably had it closed in a door! What is neat though is that it is attributed! The name J. M. Wright is etched on the blade. John Marvin Wright was a 1909 USMA grad -- an engineer and 4th in his class! Wright was involved with military railroads during WW1 in France as a full colonel, and later joined Baldwin Locomotive Company after the war -- he worked for Fridgidaire later on. Enjoy! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted January 20, 2009 Share #41 Posted January 20, 2009 And here is the etching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted January 20, 2009 Share #42 Posted January 20, 2009 And here's a somewhat newer one -- stainless, made in Spain and sold by Colonial. It was presented to MG Edward Fry, Kansas AG on his retirement in 1980. His name is engraved on the blade and the presentation info is on the scabbard. Interestingly, Fry was a WW2 AAF pilot -- needless to say he probably never wore this one. (I wonder if there was a saber rack in the cockpit of his P-51.) Enjoy! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted January 20, 2009 Share #43 Posted January 20, 2009 By the way, this one needs a new owner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john31 Posted January 20, 2009 Share #44 Posted January 20, 2009 Gil nice swords! hey how did you find out the information on who the name etched was on your sword? i am trying to find out info on the name etched on mine. and cant seem to locate a site that would have this info. thanks john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIl Sanow Posted January 20, 2009 Share #45 Posted January 20, 2009 Well, with Fry, I simply Googled the name "General Edward Fry". With the Wright, I can't recall how I knew to look there, but I found him in the Register of West Point graduates. SInce officers were commissioned from many different sources, I would say I got lucky. I would first of all find out where it came from to narrow the search. I suspect many NG officers had engraved/etched swords, so location would sure help. Good luck. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share #46 Posted January 20, 2009 John, Gill is quite right that identifying the owner of named swords is hit and miss at best. Of course General Officer swords are more easy to decipher since these officers have more time in service and are more likely to show up on google or other internet search engines. Here is a M1902 variation that is a presentation grade sword from Capt. Joseph Stringham. I know he served in the Ordnance Corps and graduated from Military School in 1895 from the sword itself but I can't find any other information on him. Here is view of the presentation etched blade. Sometimes these soldiers elude us when doing research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share #47 Posted January 20, 2009 Another view of the hilt showing the elaborately embossed backstrap and the interior of the guard. This sword is a more highly embellished version of the regulation 1902 Officer Sword. Some had gilt hilts and some had very plain hilts. I have found you can't really judge a book by its cover. Some seemingly very plain-Jane swords have beautiful presentation blades and some with elaborate presentation grade fittings are not named or have identified owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGE Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share #48 Posted January 20, 2009 Finally, a view of the highly hand worked drag on the scabbard. The scabbard bands are also stippled and worked with floral displays but they are less obvious than the drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spathologist Posted January 20, 2009 Share #49 Posted January 20, 2009 Oh, wow! That's a really neat drag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted March 26, 2010 Share #50 Posted March 26, 2010 I picked up this one today: it says Germany, but that's it, no maker mark or clues to age. The the guard is non-magnetic and the grip appears to be synthetic. I assume this the the Generic German M1902.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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