MPage Posted April 28, 2013 Share #751 Posted April 28, 2013 How is "beogam" pronunced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpath Posted April 29, 2013 Share #752 Posted April 29, 2013 How about an M1 Helmet cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted August 4, 2013 Share #753 Posted August 4, 2013 Here's a find from last week. I believe it's a tailor made 3rd pattern, Beogam 4 pocket jacket. Looks like it was made from another garment or two as theres evidence of stitching from removed pockets on the arm and back panel. There are few shadows/stitch marks/ from a bottom pocket and patches that had been removed at some point. Two patches on the back and one on the right chest pocket. No markings ie size, tailor etc. 5 of the original green shaved edge buttons remain. Two of the replacements are the earlier US GI buttons. One OD one OG. Heavy weight cotton twill. Tightly woven with smooth, flat handle. Fits around a US Medium. Here's a back pic. Chest Pockets. Bottom Pocket Pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMI88 Posted August 7, 2013 Share #754 Posted August 7, 2013 I just picked up a beogam shirt and wanted to post it for the group. I'm pretty sure it's a good one but I'm open to any information from the advanced collectors here. It's cut like an OG-107 fatigue shirt with plastic buttons, made of a very lightweight material. I'm sure it was comfortable to wear but wouldn't have held up to heavy field use at all. I know plastic buttons came after metal ones and the cut is later than the shirts with pleated pockets. I've read through the whole thread and seen references to at least two different patterns of camouflage. Can anyone tell me which this is and approximately when it would have been produced? The markings are different than any posted on the thread so far; instead of a cloth label it has an "M" stamped in red ink. Has anyone seen this on other beogam garments? It looks very similar to inked size markings I've seen stamped on theater-procured headgear. The collar shows the characteristic zig-zag stitching of these shirts: I picked up the shirt because it appeared to match a pair of trousers I picked up a few years ago (see post #6 in http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/57779-vietnam-ranger-advisors-grouping/). The camouflage pattern and colors are identical, except that the shirt has been washed a few times. The only other difference I found is that the buttons on the pants are black and those on the shirt are green. (It's a little hard to see in the photo because of glare.) Here's a closer view comparing the buttons. That's about it - I'd appreciate any further information anyone could provide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravo_2_zero Posted August 9, 2013 Share #755 Posted August 9, 2013 Here's a closer view comparing the buttons. DSC04574.JPG That's about it - I'd appreciate any further information anyone could provide! Buttons are British tropical buttons from the #9 tropical uniforms. The buttons were made in green & brown. The tropical DPM's were made from the early 60's up to late 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMI88 Posted August 9, 2013 Share #756 Posted August 9, 2013 Buttons are British tropical buttons from the #9 tropical uniforms. The buttons were made in green & brown. The tropical DPM's were made from the early 60's up to late 90's. The beogam trousers came directly from a veteran's foot locker so I'm absolutely certain they're correct. The shirt's provenance is unknown but the camouflage pattern matches the trousers exactly and the buttons are identical except for color. They also have the shaved rims on the back side as is typical of Asian-made buttons. Those details may not show up in the photos but I'm pretty sure these aren't British buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravo_2_zero Posted August 9, 2013 Share #757 Posted August 9, 2013 The beogam trousers came directly from a veteran's foot locker so I'm absolutely certain they're correct. The shirt's provenance is unknown but the camouflage pattern matches the trousers exactly and the buttons are identical except for color. They also have the shaved rims on the back side as is typical of Asian-made buttons. Those details may not show up in the photos but I'm pretty sure these aren't British buttons. Could be copied from British then ? You would have found these also on indo wind proofs surplus British war stock as used by the French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.... Posted August 12, 2013 Share #758 Posted August 12, 2013 The markings are different than any posted on the thread so far; instead of a cloth label it has an "M" stamped in red ink. DSC04567.JPG Has anyone seen this on other beogam garments? It looks very similar to inked size markings I've seen stamped on theater-procured headgear. I have a pair of pant that has a red "M" ink stamped in the waistband. The camouflage pattern of the pants is the same as your shirt, the material of the pants is very thin. I bought these pants about 10 or 15 years ago from Bill Brooks. The pants have a button closure and I remember there was a smaller (almost bright) green button on the inside of the pants which was sewn very loose and long gone since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted August 21, 2013 Share #759 Posted August 21, 2013 This is RARE Vietnamese made Beogam. owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMI88 Posted August 22, 2013 Share #760 Posted August 22, 2013 Thanks for the responses from Elvis & Owen. Can you give me any more information on what you mean by Vietnamese-made beogam? Was it produced for indigenous forces as opposed to US troops? The trousers came from the estate of an officer who served as some sort of advisor - I haven't quite been able to nail down his service record. However, there was other indigenous clothing in his estate. Any additional information on the manufacture or use of this pattern would be very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonG Posted August 25, 2013 Share #761 Posted August 25, 2013 In country made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted August 25, 2013 Share #762 Posted August 25, 2013 VM188, you have a very nice set of Beogam. This is an issued set to CIDG, LLDB, USSF, etc..., not bought from PX or tailor shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMI88 Posted August 25, 2013 Share #763 Posted August 25, 2013 Thanks, Andrei! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copran Posted September 23, 2013 Share #764 Posted September 23, 2013 Your shirt and pants are in the same pattern of BeoGam wore by the Vietnamese Seal (with a Duck Hunter bush hat), you can find it in the beginning of this topic in one of my post Thanks, Andrei! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMI88 Posted September 26, 2013 Share #765 Posted September 26, 2013 Your shirt and pants are in the same pattern of BeoGam wore by the Vietnamese Seal (with a Duck Hunter bush hat), you can find it in the beginning of this topic in one of my post Thanks, Copran! My set is a different cut -- it doesn't have padded shoulders, knees, or elbows -- but the camouflage pattern looks the same. Mine is also unmarked like yours except for a stamped "M" in the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beogam Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share #766 Posted December 26, 2013 Here's a find from last week. I believe it's a tailor made 3rd pattern, Beogam 4 pocket jacket. Looks like it was made from another garment or two as theres evidence of stitching from removed pockets on the arm and back panel. There are few shadows/stitch marks/ from a bottom pocket and patches that had been removed at some point. Two patches on the back and one on the right chest pocket. No markings ie size, tailor etc. 5 of the original green shaved edge buttons remain. Two of theBoegam web photo-52.jpg replacements are the earlier US GI buttons. One OD one OG. Heavy weight cotton twill. Tightly woven with smooth, flat handle. Fits around a US Medium. Hi Klaxon Just superb and hard find one !!! Regards Jérôme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #767 Posted January 21, 2014 Any ideas on these? Thrift store find in the 90s. Thought it was made by a housewife for hunting but bought them cheap(appreciated the effort to make). Later learned the paint in the trousers was from a WWII USMC shelter half. Jacket appears to follow a WWII USMC pattern. Took them to a show in '97 for info(wondered if it was MACV or something) and was quickly offered $150 by a dealer. I declined but with all the Ebay drama now I guess I should have taken it? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted January 21, 2014 Share #768 Posted January 21, 2014 Tailor made in Okinawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #769 Posted January 21, 2014 Bob, Is there more of a story on this? WWII use, VN use? Thanks in advance, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted January 21, 2014 Share #770 Posted January 21, 2014 worn pre-Vietnam by recon Marines on Okinawa. Some used these suits in Vietnam and found out they were way to hot to wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #771 Posted January 21, 2014 Who collects that era? Occupational only? Were they used in Korea? Just curious - I'm not a dealer but thought of taking them to SOS for trade. The more I know........ Thanks for the info! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Graffiti Posted January 21, 2014 Share #772 Posted January 21, 2014 Made from poncho or groundsheet fabric, it appears they have a unit stencil (yellow and black) on the inside pants pocket bag. Pretty cool, agreed Okinawa made for sure. AG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted January 21, 2014 Share #773 Posted January 21, 2014 All I intentionally collect is USAAF. I have only a few USMC items. Any idea what these go for? Would they be "occupational"? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted January 21, 2014 Share #774 Posted January 21, 2014 No post Korea. Most likely 1958-1965 period. I think the yellow piece of material behind the fly is just some civilian material that was used. I had a boonie made out of this same material that had some odd civilian material like that on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted January 23, 2014 Share #775 Posted January 23, 2014 Interestingly, I haven't found any civi material. The yellow at the pocket is part of a diamond stencil. This is why I assumed it was a shelter half at one time. Not sure if it stands for 8th marines or what. A yellow hash is off to the side. 1/8 marines? Dave Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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