Can you identify this 1967 bayonet?

[Manchu Warrior]

On 4/1/2025 at 7:45 AM, Rhscott said:

It seems NC Guard also went from the M1 direct to the M16 and the only time Soldiers used the M14 was at basic training.  The M14 had the shortest active service span of any primary US issue weapon.  By 1970 most had been crated and stored.

When I was in the ROK in the mid 1990’s the Korean gate guards that worked with us, at ammo points as well, carried either an army issued shot gun or an M-14. They were much older than the KATUSA’s assigned to our unit an I believe they were all retired ROK soldiers. Not to get off track but the tankers also still carried the grease gun in the ROK. 

[atb]

16 minutes ago, Manchu Warrior said:

When I was in the ROK in the mid 1990’s the Korean gate guards that worked with us, at ammo points as well, carried either an army issued shot gun or an M-14. They were much older than the KATUSA’s assigned to our unit an I believe they were all retired ROK soldiers. Not to get off track but the tankers also still carried the grease gun in the ROK. 

Possibly they were part of the Korean Service Corps (KSC).

[The Rooster]

8 hours ago, Roc.Chester said:

 

Not that it would make a big difference, using that blade on either peaceful students protesting or on non-participating bystanders would be quite a departure from any military code of conduct either way.

If you want to quell a riot, an unsheathed bayonet, sends a powerful easily understood message.

Considering all of the Violent Demonstrations in Sri Lanka over the decades,

how does the Government there in your country handle it?

What code do the Govt troops tasked with keeping order in Sri Lanka utilize?

As of recent times in the USA, the bayonet should make a come back in my opinion.

Certain groups here have tried to coddle criminals and I think everyone in this country

has seen the negative effects of that.

[The Rooster]

There was a riot at the old Joliet Prison in Illinois in June of 1917.

June 5th 1917.

The prisoners were trying to break down the gate that was in the Blues Brothers movie. The one Belushi walks out of in the beginning of the movie Blues Brothers.

Same gate.They had a coal car and were ramming down the gate.

There was a a detachment of Illinois Army National Guard troops of the 1-131 st infantry 33rd division, encamped down the street from the prison about a mile away.

They were awaiting movement to France where their record was outstanding. Ducit Amor Patriae. Fed by love of country 1-131st.. First Illinois. The Dandy First!

Its quite a story.. to make it short. The members of the 1-131st Infantry showed up and stopped the riot using only their bayonets.

They were praised all across the country even by the President, for showing restraint and not shooting any of the rioting prisoners.

They just used their Bayonets.....

The headline in the New York Times the next day claims the rain and the Infantrymen s bayonets stopped the Riot.

I like to think it was more the bayonets on a warm June evening.

Headline in the NY Times... The next day

June 6th 1917.

"BAYONETS AND RAIN QUELL PRISON RIOT; Illinois Troops Charge 1,000 Convicts Who Set Fire to Joliet Penitentiary During Revolt. ONE KILLED AND MANY HURT Two Hundred Prisoners Defy Soldiers, but Are Driven to Coverby a Drenching Shower."

I seriously doubt it was the rain that stopped the riot.

lol.

🤣

[The Rooster]

13 hours ago, Roc.Chester said:

 

Not that it would make a big difference, using that blade on either peaceful students protesting or on non-participating bystanders would be quite a departure from any military code of conduct either way.

The purpose of the unsheathed Bayonets is to send a message. We are not playing...

go home...... You use this code , so that the situation does not devolve into this....

 

Sri Lanka deploys troops in capital after violence, protests.....

 

Thats real safe looking .......... Unsheathed bayonets... vs masked soldiers riding armored personnel carriers

carrying AK's............. Nice code you have..... Which is worse?

[Manchu Warrior]

6 hours ago, atb said:

Possibly they were part of the Korean Service Corps (KSC).

Never heard of the KSC until today and looked it up and learned something new. Thanks! 

[Roc.Chester]

8 hours ago, The Rooster said:

If you want to quell a riot, an unsheathed bayonet, sends a powerful easily understood message.

...

Certain groups here have tried to coddle criminals and I think everyone in this country

has seen the negative effects of that.

 

Hello, The Rooster. You seem to criticise the soldiers on picture 1, keeping the sheath on that day in Washington in 1967.

 

You also seem to confuse the situations of riot and protest. Two different situations, that warrant two different responses. The OIC in Washington that day seemed worth his salt , in that he could make the difference between a violent prison riot and a peaceful student demonstration. He also succeeded in not escalating to an incident.

 

About your reference to Sri Lanka, I am posted in Sri Lanka at the moment, but this posting is recent and I do not know much about the violent riots you refer to, other than there were violent riots. Different country, different standards in the military, different story, different recruits and different training. You may want to have a higher standard.

[The Rooster]

41 minutes ago, Roc.Chester said:

 

Hello, The Rooster. You seem to criticise the soldiers on picture 1, keeping the sheath on that day in Washington in 1967.

 

You also seem to confuse the situations of riot and protest. Two different situations, that warrant two different responses. The OIC in Washington that day seemed worth his salt , in that he could make the difference between a violent prison riot and a peaceful student demonstration. He also succeeded in not escalating to an incident.

 

About your reference to Sri Lanka, I am posted in Sri Lanka at the moment, but this posting is recent and I do not know much about the violent riots you refer to, other than there were violent riots. Different country, different standards in the military, different story, different recruits and different training. You may want to have a higher standard.

Picture #1.

Used as Propaganda by the communist sympathizers in this country

and the communists in Vietnam, China, Russia,

Communists everywhere loved pictures like picture number 1.

Did I err in that comment? Roc.Chester?

I dont know how you comprehended anything else?

Apparently you are seeing something you think I wrote about Picture #1, that I did not write. ?

"Hello, The Rooster. You seem to criticise the soldiers on picture 1, keeping the sheath on that day in Washington in 1967."

Nope.

The OIC in Washington,...... Im guessing you mean the picture of the MP's with Bayonets out of the sheathes?

Yea that most likely never escalated due to the show of force?

Dont know, I was not there. People in the USA were somewhat more civilized back then....

Except for all the riots....

Study the country you are posted in and for the heck of it,

study how your own country,

what ever that is, study how they handle civil unrest.

The authorities in your home country....

And then pass judgement. Perhaps your standards need examining and measuring?

Maybe you might want to have a higher standard? There is this old story out there about

trying to remove the splinter from your Brothers eye,

while at the same time ignoring the plank in your own eye.

Cheers!

 

 

 

[Roc.Chester]

Not sure how a question about identifying a 1967 bayonet model has become the opportunity to start a political argument, especially about an event 58 years ago.

 

Rooster, you introduced numerous posts talking about very different situations, countries and timeframes. What does a prison riot in 1917 have to do with the original picture? Or clashes in Sri Lanka. It is not really necessary to introduce these off-topic anecdotes of every instance bayonets were used throughout history. Also expressions like "coddling criminals" sounds like passing judgement, not exactly sure why you introduce that notion here either. It does not apply to the picture, and is not necessary in this thread. Please kindly remain factual and focused on the first picture, the date is 1967, the place is Washington DC, and it does not involve "communists". Just well-behaved troops, and peaceful protesters who expressed a disagreement with the war in Vietnam, for many reasons. 

 

6 hours ago, The Rooster said:

Study the country you are posted in and for the heck of it,

study how your own country

 

Thank you. Perhaps someone should tell you this sort of line comes off quite patronising and insecure. And, yet again, unnecessary, especially when you do not know the first thing about who you are addressing. This can become embarrassing. 

 

 

  

[The Rooster]

5 hours ago, Roc.Chester said:

Not sure how a question about identifying a 1967 bayonet model has become the opportunity to start a political argument, especially about an event 58 years ago.

 

Rooster, you introduced numerous posts talking about very different situations, countries and timeframes. What does a prison riot in 1917 have to do with the original picture? Or clashes in Sri Lanka. It is not really necessary to introduce these off-topic anecdotes of every instance bayonets were used throughout history. Also expressions like "coddling criminals" sounds like passing judgement, not exactly sure why you introduce that notion here either. It does not apply to the picture, and is not necessary in this thread. Please kindly remain factual and focused on the first picture, the date is 1967, the place is Washington DC, and it does not involve "communists". Just well-behaved troops, and peaceful protesters who expressed a disagreement with the war in Vietnam, for many reasons. 

 

 

Thank you. Perhaps someone should tell you this sort of line comes off quite patronising and insecure. And, yet again, unnecessary, especially when you do not know the first thing about who you are addressing. This can become embarrassing. 

 

 

  

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Thank you.

Have a nice day.

Cheers!

[The Rooster]

"Not sure how a question about identifying a 1967 bayonet model has become the opportunity to start a political argument, especially about an event 58 years ago."

 

Oh I dont know.... could have been this picture from 58 years ago...

Its soaked in politics. Dripping with it. And I for one did not know I was arguing.....?

[Mr.Jerry]

Let's all step back and take a breath- 

It's to easy to look back at history with the 20/20 vision of present day hindsight.

 

This is an interesting topic on an interesting weapon. Let's keep it on track.