Collar Disk Help

[Edelweisse]

Hi:  I found this infantry collar disk in my Father's WWII items but I don't know what timeframe they'd be used and where.  My Grandfather (his Father) was also a WWI vet and served in the US ARMY CAC from 1917-29 ...so what and when?  Thanks,

[Edelweisse]

based upon this site... I don't see an example with this type of attachment....

 

Would this be for equipment?

[atb]

27 minutes ago, Edelweisse said:

based upon this site... I don't see an example with this type of attachment....

 

Would this be for equipment?

I doubt that. I think it's foreign-made, or, if US-made, an economy item. Looks those lead-like war metal.shooting badges was the crappy pin fasteners.

[Edelweisse]

ok....hmmmm. thank you 

[cutiger83]

1 hour ago, Edelweisse said:

based upon this site... I don't see an example with this type of attachment....

 

Would this be for equipment?

I am thinking you might be correct. There is no way to attach this to a col!ar. I have not seen a back like this on a collar disk.

 

It does not look lime the pot metal lead to me. The pot metal ones look a lot more crude. 

 

...Kat

[atb]

21 minutes ago, cutiger83 said:

I am thinking you might be correct. There is no way to attach this to a col!ar. I have not seen a back like this on a collar disk.

 

It does not look lime the pot metal lead to me. The pot metal ones look a lot more crude. 

 

...Kat

Like some early 20th Century collar insignia with bending prongs on the reverse. They punch through the uniform fabric and are bent over to secure the insignia.

[cutiger83]

24 minutes ago, atb said:

Like some early 20th Century collar insignia with bending prongs on the reverse. They punch through the uniform fabric and are bent over to secure the insignia.

I have never seen any like what you are saying. Do you have any reference material on them? 

[atb]

1 hour ago, cutiger83 said:

I have never seen any like what you are saying. Do you have any reference material on them? 

Emerson's and Laframbois' books shows the pattern 1902 enlisted collar insignia and others with prong back fasteners. I have seen foreign-made DUIs with that type of bendable prongs on the reverse. I surmise collar disks using that type of fastener are unusual.

[cutiger83]

Just now, atb said:

Emerson's and Laframbois' book shows the pattern 1902 enlisted collar insignia and others with prong back fasteners. I have seen foreign-made DUIs with that type of bendable prongs on the reverse. I surmise collar disks using that type of fastener are unusual.

Thank you for the reference information....

[Edelweisse]

I want to thank you for identifying this collar disk.  I always thought it was strange but legit ….but I wondered when…assuming the clip fastners would break.  You’d think that there would be many of these broken example on military base parade grounds.

[atb]

20 minutes ago, Edelweisse said:

I want to thank you for identifying this collar disk.  I always thought it was strange but legit ….but I wondered when…assuming the clip fastners would break.  You’d think that there would be many of these broken example on military base parade grounds.

I think the broken fasteners are a reason it is scarce and probably wasn't very popular with soldiers.

[JohnK83882]

The infantry rifles are bolt rifles and they were only correct from 1914 to 1924, though I've seen them in WW2 disks before. Better to ask if there was another country that made insignia that way, like Germany. Could be a theater-made item.