Old Marine Posted April 7, 2009 Share #26 Posted April 7, 2009 Thanks for taking the time to post all that great information! Nice patches too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35th USAAD Posted July 27, 2009 Share #27 Posted July 27, 2009 Lars, Wunderbar!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 24, 2009 Share #28 Posted August 24, 2009 Harder to differentiate are the following patches. U.S. made patches usually were embroidered horizontally, that means the stitching/weave seems to rum from right to left. Many German made patches were embroidered vertically. The weave/stitching appears to run top-down. Hi Lars Phill here appreciate this posting- i brought a collection of armoured patches and suspected they were German manufactured post WWII-what years would the following be-(havent mastered the pic format yet)-i am trying to stick to US manufactured WWII-post WWII and variations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 24, 2009 Share #29 Posted August 24, 2009 Hi LarsPhill here appreciate this posting- i brought a collection of armoured patches and suspected they were German manufactured post WWII-what years would the following be-(havent mastered the pic format yet)-i am trying to stick to US manufactured WWII-post WWII and variations obverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 24, 2009 Share #30 Posted August 24, 2009 obverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 24, 2009 Share #31 Posted August 24, 2009 Great thread Lars if you can give approx years these would of been worn would be appreciated Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share #32 Posted August 25, 2009 Hi Phill, thanks for adding your pictures here! Unfortunately the vertically stiching "rule" has many exceptions with the Armor triangles. Would you mind posting a pic of the front of the 4th and 13th AD patch? I'm unsure yet, if they're German mades. Regarding the 1st AD patch I'm afraid I can't help you. I haven't such a light green merrowed border Armored triangle in my collection. From the front it looks like one of these "computer stiched" patches. In any case it looks different to the 1st Armored Div WWII merrowed edge patch, TANKPATCHES posted here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...l=WWII+merrowed I'm sorry. Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 25, 2009 Share #33 Posted August 25, 2009 Hi Phill, thanks for adding your pictures here! Unfortunately the vertically stiching "rule" has many exceptions with the Armor triangles. Would you mind posting a pic of the front of the 4th and 13th AD patch? I'm unsure yet, if they're German mades. Regarding the 1st AD patch I'm afraid I can't help you. I haven't such a light green merrowed border Armored triangle in my collection. From the front it looks like one of these "computer stiched" patches. In any case it looks different to the 1st Armored Div WWII merrowed edge patch, TANKPATCHES posted here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...l=WWII+merrowed I'm sorry. Lars Hi Lars note the heavy white back on numbers and no pigtails and yellow apex-USA ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 25, 2009 Share #34 Posted August 25, 2009 Hi Lars note the heavy white back on numbers and no pigtails and yellow apex-USA ? and 13th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share #35 Posted August 25, 2009 Phill, the 4th and 13th AD patches do look U.S. made to me. Regarding the 1st AD, I'm sure, tredhed 2 will know! Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredhed2 Posted August 25, 2009 Share #36 Posted August 25, 2009 Lars, I appreciate your vote of confidence, but it would better to say that I "may" know. Your 1st AD looks U.S. made to me - it closely resembles the smaller armor PX patches most of us have seen w/ the squared looking #s for the separate bns. But it would be the first AD patch I have seen made like this, so I could be incorrect. Could we please have the dimensions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankpatches Posted August 26, 2009 Share #37 Posted August 26, 2009 Many many other variants of German made patches do exist. It was my intention to point out some attributes you'll find MOSTLY with German made patches. Maybe it's a little help for the new collector. Please feel free to add your knowledge about „German mades“ here. Thanks for looking! Lars I thought I post a few variants as well, the 141st and 143rd Tank Bn's. there are two variations of each Unit; an early version and a later version. The top one is the early version ,note the fine weave,also look at the German style 1's they look like the US #7 The bottom picture is of the later version, courser weave, and the colors are a lot match to US made (Armor) patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankpatches Posted August 26, 2009 Share #38 Posted August 26, 2009 I thought I post a few variants as well, the 141st and 143rd Tank Bn's. there are two variations of each Unit; an early version and a later version. The top one is the early version ,note the fine weave,also look at the German style 1's they look like the US #7 The bottom picture is of the later version, courser weave, and the colors are a lot match to US made (Armor) patches and the 143rd Tank Bn. The right hand example is the early version; note the fine weave, the light colors, and the german made "3" with the flat top. The left hand example is the later version, the weave is courser, the colors and and the #3 are more in line with US made (Armor) patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 26, 2009 Share #39 Posted August 26, 2009 Lars, I appreciate your vote of confidence, but it would better to say that I "may" know. Your 1st AD looks U.S. made to me - it closely resembles the smaller armor PX patches most of us have seen w/ the squared looking #s for the separate bns. But it would be the first AD patch I have seen made like this, so I could be incorrect. Could we please have the dimensions? Could we please have the dimensions? Hi TH2 Dimensions are 1ADst Base 9.5cm x9.0cmx9.0cm , 4th AD 8.5cmx3 , 13th AD Base 9.0cm x 8.5cmx8.5cm.Would these be reworked? WWII or post WWII era wether US or German manufacture. Just a note on the border the 1st and 13th AD is a solid roundish, 4th is flat. Can i say these are WWII? Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 26, 2009 Share #40 Posted August 26, 2009 and the 143rd Tank Bn. The right hand example is the early version; note the fine weave, the light colors, and the german made "3" with the flat top. The left hand example is the later version, the weave is courser, the colors and and the #3 are more in line with US made (Armor) patches Hi Al thanks for the info can i say they are WWII ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share #41 Posted August 26, 2009 Aaaah, some very nice patches, thanks for sharing them here! Would you mind posting pics of the backs of one of these pairs of patches? Meanwhile I'll post a pair of 43rd Armored Bn triangles. Left: A German made full embroidered variant, Right: A U.S. made triangle with bare yellow apex, modified with German WW II shoulder board Regiment Numbers. Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted August 26, 2009 Share #42 Posted August 26, 2009 Aaaah, some very nice patches, thanks for sharing them here! Would you mind posting pics of the backs of one of these pairs of patches? Meanwhile I'll post a pair of 43rd Armored Bn triangles. Left: A German made full embroidered variant, Right: A U.S. made triangle with bare yellow apex, modified with German WW II shoulder board Regiment Numbers. Lars Hi Lars nice patch you haves started another off shot thread i will post a standard WWII Armoured Force with a faint outline impression of a 3 and it looks like a German 3. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share #43 Posted August 26, 2009 Hi Al thanks for the info can i say they are WWII ? I would say the 4th and 13th AD patches are U.S. made, WW II. Both Divisions were deactivated shortly after the war. 4th AD provided the mass of "Constabulary" units. The division was reactivated about 1957 and returned to Germany ("Gyroscope"). The Division then was deployed in Germany until about 1970. As far as I know the 13th AD was never reactivated again. Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Posted August 26, 2009 Share #44 Posted August 26, 2009 Hi nice patches P.Kraut I always love the woven ones There is a old black and gold German woven US-Army tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Posted August 26, 2009 Share #45 Posted August 26, 2009 Thats German made as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Posted August 26, 2009 Share #46 Posted August 26, 2009 reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share #47 Posted August 26, 2009 MF, that is a cool one!!!! :thumbsup: I only remember the yellow on black ones, thanks for sharing! Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Posted August 26, 2009 Share #48 Posted August 26, 2009 I'am not sure about this but it could be a German made as well!? Please correct me if not. Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Posted August 26, 2009 Share #49 Posted August 26, 2009 and reverse Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Force Posted August 26, 2009 Share #50 Posted August 26, 2009 MF, that is a cool one!!!! :thumbsup: I only remember the yellow on black ones, thanks for sharing! Lars Thanks Lars!!! I never realized that's something special About two years ago had 10 of this uncut in one run Servus Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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