fidgited Posted October 28, 2024 #1 Posted October 28, 2024 From what I can tell 10th SF wasnt directly deployed to Vietnam, some of their officers spent time, was Capt James J. Murphy one of them? My hardly informed guess is this is fake, but I would appreciate to hear your thoughts and the tells, as Im trying to learn. Thanks!
Cobra 6 Actual Posted October 28, 2024 #2 Posted October 28, 2024 The Forum member who can give you information on the lighter itself is @yokota57. He has an extensive knowledge of lighters and their association with the military.
Bullseye881 Posted October 28, 2024 #3 Posted October 28, 2024 There is a Capt. James J Murphy listed in the chaplain section of Who's Who from 5th SFG. (Information below is from Radix Press website). MurphyJames J CPT11/01/6410/31/65R Catholic3531
fidgited Posted October 28, 2024 Author #4 Posted October 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Bullseye881 said: There is a Capt. James J Murphy listed in the chaplain section of Who's Who from 5th SFG. (Information below is from Radix Press website). MurphyJames J CPT11/01/6410/31/65R Catholic3531 This is great thanks. I had looked for James J Murphy Vietnam on the web but found nothing useful - Radix press is a great resource thank you
yokota57 Posted October 28, 2024 #5 Posted October 28, 2024 Looks like a good, period correct West German-made "Consul". 10th SFG in Germany and Bullseye881s information points to authenticity. I would have it without reservation.
fidgited Posted October 28, 2024 Author #6 Posted October 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, yokota57 said: Looks like a good, period correct West German-made "Consul". 10th SFG in Germany and Bullseye881s information points to authenticity. I would have it without reservation. Ahh of course the seller had advertised it as Vietnam so that was in my mind, but with them not serving in Vietnam and the Consul lighter it makes much more sense. Thank you for the feedback.
Tolzer Posted October 28, 2024 #7 Posted October 28, 2024 No, the 10th Special Forces Group (A) was never deployed to Vietnam, but some of its soldiers and officers did rotate through the country. As the United States became increasingly involved in Vietnam, counter-insurgency became the primary focus of the Special Forces, rather than the traditional unconventional warfare. While the 10th SFG(A) was never deployed to Vietnam, the soldiers and officers assigned to it did rotate through the country as part of different special forces groups. The eBay seller listed this as from the Vietnam War. Maybe not? The lighter in question was made in Germany, 1st Battalion, 10th SFG was in Bad Tolz, Germany. The dates 1962-1964 might represent the time he was with 1st Battalion?
fidgited Posted October 29, 2024 Author #8 Posted October 29, 2024 Thanks for all the input guys. I have purchased it.
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