ID Help with Tank Round Penetrator (120MM M865)

[crayj]

I posted this on the "What's It Worth" section and thought my questions might be better asked here.

 

My post title is what I think that I have and I am not at all sure of the value.  I believe that it might be a target or training penetrator dart, it is 19 inches long and weighs

8Lb's. The tail fins a some sort of nonmagnetic alloy and hard enough to ring when you snap them.  2/3's of the body is magnetic, the top 1/3 lightly attracts a magnet

and has to be a different material than the bottom 2/3's, the tip of the dart looks like it has a joint.

Any coaching would be greatly appreciated, Thanks...

cj

[917601]

Nice, getting hard to find. Notice the fins- not a common “ cone fin” used to reduce range. You can search the TM for more information, yours I believe is made of “ Staballoy” , a DU substitute.

[917601]

Everything you need to know here:

 

https://www.militarynewbie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TM-43-0001-28-Army-Data-Sheets-Guns-Howizers-Mortars-Rifles-Gren-Launchers-Arty-Fuzes.pdf

 

Invaluable for ID and specs.

[crayj]

40 minutes ago, 917601 said:

Everything you need to know here:

 

https://www.militarynewbie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TM-43-0001-28-Army-Data-Sheets-Guns-Howizers-Mortars-Rifles-Gren-Launchers-Arty-Fuzes.pdf

 

Invaluable for ID and specs.

Thank You !

 

[Kaptainssurplus]

This is actually a 105mm M735 variant, not a 120mm. The darts consists of a steel nickel body, which houses a tungsten core and is fitted with an aluminum windshield and fin assembly. Under the aluminum windshield/tip is usually some type of mix incendiary metal material like zinc/titanium. The rear shows the M13 tracer, it's assembled in the fin and held in place by a threaded plug and disc assembly.

[crayj]

1 hour ago, Kaptainssurplus said:

This is actually a 105mm M735 variant, not a 120mm. The darts consists of a steel nickel body, which houses a tungsten core and is fitted with an aluminum windshield and fin assembly. Under the aluminum windshield/tip is usually some type of mix incendiary metal material like zinc/titanium. The rear shows the M13 tracer, it's assembled in the fin and held in place by a threaded plug and disc assembly.

 

Excellent, I appreciate your feedback, Thank You....

[917601]

I will add your example ( a 105mm) was at one time back in the 80’s/ 90’s found in a few Army surplus stores. At the time I think they were selling around $110. Here is a current one for sale.

 

https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/m1-abrams-105mm-tank-killer-m735-penetrator-dart.478662/

 

“Selling off some collectibles and thought to post this here in case there is an interest. 

Per the specs when I purchased it years ago: M1 Abrams tank APFSDS penetrator dart. Armor-piercing, fin-stabilized, discarding sabot. Sub-projectile darts belong to the U.S. made, 105mm M735 APFSDS-T round. It is the first type classified and adopted U.S. 105mm APFSDS-T round for the M68 riffled gun used on the M1 Abrams tank. It has a tungsten core and measures 18.75" and weights 8.4 pounds.

Makes a cool doorstop or general display piece bound to start conversations. LoL.

These are pretty hard to find these days. I could only find closed auctions pre-2020 so I'm asking $300. Not looking for any trades. Local pickup in Seattle.”

[917601]

More on Penetrator rounds. Keep in mind yours is the 105mm variety that was surplused out .  The 120mm Penetrators were not surplused out, harder to find. My 120mm example with aluminum petals was a range pick up from Germany.