Silk Eagle & Dragon Embroidery - Peking - 1903 - 1911 (Best Guess)

[Castle_Keep]

The Chinese & German flags on this embroidery may indicate that it dates between 1903 and 1911.  However, I was wondering if the ship (pre-dreadnaught) might be identified, since it has 4 smokestacks.  No luck yet.  Any ideas?  Thanks!

[Dirk]

I totally agree with your dating…the armored cruiser even narrows it down to 1909-11…when we sent 4 over there. You have been showing some nice ones! 

[dhcoleterracina]

The small issue is that the flag shows 48 stars. That began in 1912. 

[stbryson]

19 minutes ago, dhcoleterracina said:

The small issue is that the flag shows 48 stars. That began in 1912. 

Hello,

 

I count 50 stars on the flag on the left, and 54 stars on the flag on the right.

 

Take care,

 

Steve Bryson

[atb]

I think that any inaccurate number of stars on the flags may be errors on the part of the artisans.

[Castle_Keep]

1 hour ago, Dirk said:

I totally agree with your dating…the armored cruiser even narrows it down to 1909-11…when we sent 4 over there. You have been showing some nice ones! 

Hi Dirk-

I see...so it's actually an armored cruiser.  Your suggested 1909 - 1911 timeframe seems perfectly plausible.  Thanks so much!   

[Castle_Keep]

1 hour ago, stbryson said:

Hello,

 

I count 50 stars on the flag on the left, and 54 stars on the flag on the right.

 

Take care,

 

Steve Bryson

Hi Steve- The star count never occured to me.  Much appreciated, sir!

 

Patrick

[Castle_Keep]

1 hour ago, dhcoleterracina said:

The small issue is that the flag shows 48 stars. That began in 1912. 

Good call, sir.  Much appreciated.

[Dirk]

Here is one from the mid to late 20’s….30 stars….numbers of stars were not as important to the artist as filling the blue square with stars. This one came from the Marine’s grandson and apparently was never hung or exposed long term to the sun. 

[Dirk]

And another from the same period as Castle is showing 

[Castle_Keep]

4 minutes ago, Dirk said:

Here is one from the mid to late 20’s….30 stars….numbers of stars were not as important to the artist as filling the blue square with stars. This one came from the Marine’s grandson and apparently was never hung or exposed long term to the sun. 

Crisp & clean as a whistle...and priceless with the spelling errors.  I actually love that.  

[Castle_Keep]

10 minutes ago, Dirk said:

And another from the same period as Castle is showing 

 

11 minutes ago, Dirk said:

And another from the same period as Castle is showing 

It's intereresting when comparing ours.  Your cruiser has 3 stacks (I think) and is pointed the other direction.  Your eagle also is in full attack mode.  

[Dirk]

Unlike yours, mine is just a cruiser….the eagle attacks is somewhat rare by the time it was made, as the Boxer Rebellion was long past….you can date them as well by the relation between the eagle and the dragon. But we know the dates this Marine served at the legation 

[Castle_Keep]

11 minutes ago, Dirk said:

Unlike yours, mine is just a cruiser….the eagle attacks is somewhat rare by the time it was made, as the Boxer Rebellion was long past….you can date them as well by the relation between the eagle and the dragon. But we know the dates this Marine served at the legation 

Thanks for passing along those fascinating observations.