colewhit Posted December 1, 2008 Share #76 Posted December 1, 2008 Can anyone recommend a dealer in Dallas and how to validate the authenticity of a USMC WWII Sharpshooter badge. I am looking for a vintage badge to replace the modern issue in my father's shadow box. I have some questions: Does either a mark sterling or hallmark prove authenticity? I've seen pictures of hallmarks from earlier posts. Were there approved issue badges that were not silver during WWII? In other words, could an authentic badge be made out of another metal besides silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrier9601 Posted December 16, 2008 Share #77 Posted December 16, 2008 I recently picked up this Marine Corps pistol expert qualification badge, but I'm not familiar with the hallmark on the back. It's just an "S" in a shield. Does anyone know which manufacturer it represents? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senator57 Posted December 17, 2008 Share #78 Posted December 17, 2008 I recently picked up this Marine Corps pistol expert qualification badge, but I'm not familiar with the hallmark on the back. It's just an "S" in a shield. Does anyone know which manufacturer it represents? Thanks in advance! Hi- I believe this is the Sugarman logo. Unfortunately, I"m not sure when this particular hallmark was used. -Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrier9601 Posted December 17, 2008 Share #79 Posted December 17, 2008 Hi Frank, Thanks for the information! I really appreciate it. After digging around a little more on the internet, it appears the Institute of Heraldry assigned Sugarman the manufacturer's code S-1 and S-12. Since this badge isn't stamped with one of those hallmarks, I would estimate it most likely dates from the mid - late 1950's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted January 10, 2009 Share #80 Posted January 10, 2009 Bought this on Ebay as a replacement for a missing family badge. Looked better on Ebay. Can you guys tell me if this is original WW1. Thanks Can anyone help? I'm not a collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share #81 Posted January 12, 2009 hard to tell if it's exactly WWI, but with the open clasp and 4 rings, it is consistent with the WWI issue pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCR79 Posted January 12, 2009 Share #82 Posted January 12, 2009 That's a match to one I have in a WWII Marine's group. The marine I have enlisted in 1943 Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share #83 Posted January 12, 2009 That's a match to one I have in a WWII Marine's group. Bill it was used consistently pre-WWI through Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted January 12, 2009 Share #84 Posted January 12, 2009 Would it get a passing grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCR79 Posted January 13, 2009 Share #85 Posted January 13, 2009 I would say "yes" Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted January 13, 2009 Share #86 Posted January 13, 2009 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colewhit Posted January 17, 2009 Share #87 Posted January 17, 2009 I just purchased the badge from an eBay vendor because I noticed the hallmark and what appeared to be some patina, but upon closer inspection, the hallmark seams odd to me. I'm also not familiar with the marking Ser 135. Any ideas? The so called "silver" appears to be flaking off too. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share #88 Posted January 17, 2009 Ser 135 and Ser 206 were marks used by H&H during the Korean War period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colewhit Posted January 19, 2009 Share #89 Posted January 19, 2009 Ser 135 and Ser 206 were marks used by H&H during the Korean War period Thanks Brig. You're a wealth of knowledge. I learned so much from guys like you on this board. I am looking for a vintage WWII sharpshooter to replace a lost item in my father's shadow box. I will return it to the eBay vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share #90 Posted January 20, 2009 can't take much credit. most of what I've learned has come from this board, as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colewhit Posted January 23, 2009 Share #91 Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone know the score required for expert (EX) bayonet in the USMC during WWII? 1937 Uniform Regulations show EX-Bayonet for a q-bar under a basic badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pac_bob Posted January 23, 2009 Share #92 Posted January 23, 2009 Ser 135 and Ser 206 were marks used by H&H during the Korean War period The spread eagle hallmark emblazoned "H-H" was also used by Hillborn-Hamberger, New York at least as far back as the 1920s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted January 23, 2009 Share #93 Posted January 23, 2009 Cannot recall having read anywhere, this was a "scored event or qualification" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share #94 Posted January 24, 2009 Got this on eBay. the pic was dark, thought it might have been a tarnished USMC piece, but now that it's here it looks more like the gold National Guard type. any opinions? also, notice the interesting pin hinge. What era is this thing? I'm guessing WWI or interwar years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37thguy Posted January 24, 2009 Share #95 Posted January 24, 2009 My guess is pre WW1? But...just a guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted January 24, 2009 Share #96 Posted January 24, 2009 Its WW1 era, I believe that if its gold, its the Guard, but yours looks like the Corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly USMC Posted January 26, 2009 Share #97 Posted January 26, 2009 I have soon some with the same type of hinnge and clasp that were Pre WWI dated. They were probably used during the First World War as well. S/F John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share #98 Posted February 9, 2009 at the same time, SER markings are normally associated with Korean era EGAs by H&H...what year did the badge cease to say 'Expert Rifleman' and begin to say 'Rifle Expert' exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted February 10, 2009 Share #99 Posted February 10, 2009 at the same time, SER markings are normally associated with Korean era EGAs by H&H...what year did the badge cease to say 'Expert Rifleman' and begin to say 'Rifle Expert' exactly? Tim, as I recall the change came about the same time period the Lance Corporal rank was added. s/f Darrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share #100 Posted February 10, 2009 so right prior to Vietnam. so that would make the above SER marked piece right about then. So SER marks lasted longer than I had thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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