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Robswashashore
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My husband and I recently visited a local antique store with a small item we no longer wanted and hoped to trade for something else.  The something else turned out to be the ammo crate pictured here.  I have been working on deciphering the stenciling and so far have come up with "Ball Cal. .30 M1 Packed in clips and bandoliers"  "Ball cartridges for Rifle use".  and "Ft. Jay, NY". I also picked out the word Arsenal and NJ.

I am wondering if this crate contained ammunition for the M1 Carbine?

 

Would be interested in any observations the munitions experts on the Forum could make.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Jean

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"RAR" is Raritan Arsenal in New Jersey.

I would guess the wording packed in clips and bandoliers indicates ammunition for the M1 Rifle.

Posted

25 bandoliers of 8 rd enbloc clips in 6 pocket bandoliers= 1,200 rds

or

20 Bandoliers in 5 rd Stripper clips 10 rds in each pocket to 6 pocket bandoliers= 1,200 rds

 

Posted

If that contained M1 Ball ammo, that predates the M2 Ball ammo. So pre-WW2?

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illinigander
Posted

M-1 I think refers to the M-1 rifle.  The M-1 bullet was used in WW1 and has a flat base.  The post WW-2 had a boat tailed base.

illinigander 

illinigander
Posted

My mistake- I meant to write that the M-2 bullet was post WW-1.  Sorry

RustyCanteen
Posted

Being M1 ball, this would have been stenciled for ammunition manufactured in the 1930s. The Army got rid of a bunch of the M1 ball (and found it unsuitable for many reasons), but I think the US Navy kept it on hand through WWII, in limited capacity. 
 

This is the best I can make out:

XX CARTRIDGES 
   XX    XX       XX
FOR RIFLE USE 
IN CLIPS AND BANDOLEERS

SECOND CLASS AMMUNITION XX
FROM SURVEYED SAMPLES
XX FRANKFORD ARSENAL
 LOT 10X2


I would assume this was packed in the 5 round clips used for the M1903 & M1917 rifles. I would think it is somewhat scarce too, since it is marked for the short lived M1 cartridges. 

RC

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