Robswashashore Posted June 20, 2023 #1 Posted June 20, 2023 My husband and I recently visited a local antique store with a small item we no longer wanted and hoped to trade for something else. The something else turned out to be the ammo crate pictured here. I have been working on deciphering the stenciling and so far have come up with "Ball Cal. .30 M1 Packed in clips and bandoliers" "Ball cartridges for Rifle use". and "Ft. Jay, NY". I also picked out the word Arsenal and NJ. I am wondering if this crate contained ammunition for the M1 Carbine? Would be interested in any observations the munitions experts on the Forum could make. Thanks and regards, Jean
atb Posted June 20, 2023 #2 Posted June 20, 2023 "RAR" is Raritan Arsenal in New Jersey. I would guess the wording packed in clips and bandoliers indicates ammunition for the M1 Rifle.
Linedoggie Posted June 20, 2023 #3 Posted June 20, 2023 25 bandoliers of 8 rd enbloc clips in 6 pocket bandoliers= 1,200 rds or 20 Bandoliers in 5 rd Stripper clips 10 rds in each pocket to 6 pocket bandoliers= 1,200 rds
kfields Posted June 21, 2023 #4 Posted June 21, 2023 If that contained M1 Ball ammo, that predates the M2 Ball ammo. So pre-WW2?
illinigander Posted July 2, 2023 #5 Posted July 2, 2023 M-1 I think refers to the M-1 rifle. The M-1 bullet was used in WW1 and has a flat base. The post WW-2 had a boat tailed base. illinigander
illinigander Posted July 6, 2023 #6 Posted July 6, 2023 My mistake- I meant to write that the M-2 bullet was post WW-1. Sorry
RustyCanteen Posted July 6, 2023 #7 Posted July 6, 2023 Being M1 ball, this would have been stenciled for ammunition manufactured in the 1930s. The Army got rid of a bunch of the M1 ball (and found it unsuitable for many reasons), but I think the US Navy kept it on hand through WWII, in limited capacity. This is the best I can make out: XX CARTRIDGES XX XX XX FOR RIFLE USE IN CLIPS AND BANDOLEERS SECOND CLASS AMMUNITION XX FROM SURVEYED SAMPLES XX FRANKFORD ARSENAL LOT 10X2 I would assume this was packed in the 5 round clips used for the M1903 & M1917 rifles. I would think it is somewhat scarce too, since it is marked for the short lived M1 cartridges. RC
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