N.S. Meyer shold-r-form lieutenant's bars.

[S.ChrisKelly]

N.S. Meyer began producing shold-r-form ranks at some point, likely the second half of World War Two.  Available in whatever... sterling silver, nickel-plated cupro-nickel, eventually "MeyerMetal", etc., depending on availability and the customer's budget.

 

Posts-and-clutches are definitely post-1945, however safety catch pins were produced through at least 1965.

 

The 9M hallmark is most likely, at the earliest, seen sometime in 1953.  The bars in the first two images are likely, let's just say... "Korean War".

 

What's curious is the depth and width of the beveling.  See the fifth and sixth images. It's known that USN/USMC bars are "flats" with no beveling, and USMC bars are often uniquely hallmarked, as in the seventh and eighth images.

 

What's regulation, what's tolerated, what's "authentic to the (time/war) period", and what's the specific purpose is dastardly confusing.  For example, the final two images... Potentially late Second World War, but obviously not for military use.

 

There are multiple photographs, for example, of U.S. Army officers during the First World War wearing "coffin bars" and flatter, knurled bars, which were in common use with the New York (city) Police Department, sometime 1880 - 1930.

 

Any further thoughts on what's what with N.S. Meyer shold-r-form lieutenants' bars?

 

Thanks in advance...

[S.ChrisKelly]

One more set of images.  Card on which the lieutenant insignias are pinned is original... Mid-late 1950s.

 

[S.ChrisKelly]

Interesting variants:

from:

1) third and fourth images, 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353927268023?hash=item5267b586b7:g:lhgAAOSwhCtiFFhw&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwNCb261Pck02QNIyqGEQRGn5be%2Bg3E1XjiQVzslQdYuTIFpdX345am4t7TMVT12%2FXNyXLZ%2BjhuezjKqqacRW%2BR5xG4s1OCvW5PAZvpS%2Bh1qXUKkkDc8Ipk2BmXJvTsu4ED9XWHOObkHibp4PoDK8oe6bbocgM%2Bf%2FIxRULVrbs6ywbqNUKzspGE%2B3ifm5boss55uODLIbfdvrGkdX8YlCo6v8P4Av%2BOFktBBlKCJiZQamwMKuN0YAYPXo6Jr4G2XNVw%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8iaqs_nYQ

2) first and second images,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175638617716?hash=item28e4e09e74:g:n7oAAOSw07pkA5aQ&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4J6XwSFzKU5RW1LJBkD5jBLt7LSn%2BXioc6YBkl8zA%2Fz8t79AFP1SuvOiyIIeQIh4USgrJlLwPbcef1n5wpSZveASEOjsS1EVjwT1wVf9B0NQZiDQUgUDZO7yh6RFuNMpe%2FU6uRczyi%2FAVN4QiGr%2FqsBrv0l33puAGOvSVWVr2vY8jiRmmng6Zpe%2BIsb1ScvF4chdN3GD8F936f6YsOiWuBrqk7FADfloig9dDMODdfvE%2BnN8p%2BdVb86JcYABm6jCJNwObJhycED1UCG1nyYCrkgYC%2FUeZ3jSPy0lkrHBswl1|tkp%3ABk9SR8iaqs_nYQ

[S.ChrisKelly]

Shold-R-Form was also available in sterling silver:

 

[S.ChrisKelly]

Just for reference, this web-site has a brief history of N.S. Meyer, Inc.:

 

https://www.14to42.net/20streete042.html#:~:text=N. S. Meyer were in business in New York from 1906 to 2000.

 

[S.ChrisKelly]

These images are details from an N.S. Meyer, Inc. box containing rank insignia, from sometime, 1955 - 1964.  Shows the variety of products available at that time, including metallurgy and attachment devices.

 

 

[1944m1helmets]

I have some from NS meyer. What time period do you think they are from?