L11-VELASCO Posted March 20, 2023 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2023 Dear folks Im thinking to purchase a M1 GARAND bayonet to complet an WW2 US display and then what about this set please ...is a period one including the scabard??? Thanks in advance Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted March 20, 2023 Share #2 Posted March 20, 2023 Yes, I think this is a good example of a WWII M1 bayonet for your display. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
268th C.A. Posted March 20, 2023 Share #3 Posted March 20, 2023 your good too go! Nothing wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted March 23, 2023 Share #4 Posted March 23, 2023 UC made M1 bayonets in WW2 and again in 1953. hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, hyrax222 said: UC made M1 bayonets in WW2 and again in 1953. hyrax222 Do you suggest this one I posted could be made too from 1953?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted March 23, 2023 Share #6 Posted March 23, 2023 UC let a contracts for 750,000 M1 bayonets in WW2 and 75,000 in 1953, per Gary Cunningham. hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, hyrax222 said: UC let a contracts for 750,000 M1 bayonets in WW2 and 75,000 in 1953, per Gary Cunningham. hyrax222 Then impossible to know if the one from thread was WW2 or 1953? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted March 23, 2023 Share #8 Posted March 23, 2023 The only way to know if you have a 1953 UC, is if you have it in the original box. It's impossible to know which is which. They are the same. Therefore, it is of little concern. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted March 23, 2023 Share #9 Posted March 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, Misfit 45 said: The only way to know if you have a 1953 UC, is if you have it in the original box. It's impossible to know which is which. They are the same. Therefore, it is of little concern. Marv What Marv said.... hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted March 23, 2023 Please let me your thoughts about if is a WW2 one genuine set with this one that would be cheaper than the other before Thanks in advance Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted March 24, 2023 Share #11 Posted March 24, 2023 The PAL M1 you show is a WWII bayonet. It is not in as good shape as the UC, However, the PAL is much more rare. You will notice that it has a 1943 date. Your UC does not have the date. If I were you, I would buy it quickly. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrax222 Posted March 24, 2023 Share #12 Posted March 24, 2023 Buy it before pirates descend! Very scarce and desirable M1 transitional indeed! hyrax222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted March 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Misfit 45 said: The PAL M1 you show is a WWII bayonet. It is not in as good shape as the UC, However, the PAL is much more rare. You will notice that it has a 1943 date. Your UC does not have the date. If I were you, I would buy it quickly. Marv About the scabbard from these pics I could not see this US mark that I saw fro example on the UC one and I wonder if was possible find the scabbards without this US mark?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted March 24, 2023 Share #14 Posted March 24, 2023 I can't quite tell from the pictures, but most likely, the scabbard had been painted a few times which covered the markings on the metal. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted March 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, Misfit 45 said: I can't quite tell from the pictures, but most likely, the scabbard had been painted a few times which covered the markings on the metal. Marv Do you suggest this painting a few times on period or postwar job?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted March 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Misfit 45 said: I can't quite tell from the pictures, but most likely, the scabbard had been painted a few times which covered the markings on the metal. Marv I received a new pic and it looks that appears US marking and then could be repainted postwar or period... Is possible to know it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted March 25, 2023 Share #17 Posted March 25, 2023 The scabbard could have been painted at any time during or after WWII. The bayonet could have served, not only in WWII, but Korea as well. After that some were in Vietnam and some went to the US National Guard. Some went all over the world. The most common thought is that a bayonet like the M1 could have had many different scabbards during its service. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L11-VELASCO Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share #18 Posted March 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Misfit 45 said: The scabbard could have been painted at any time during or after WWII. The bayonet could have served, not only in WWII, but Korea as well. After that some were in Vietnam and some went to the US National Guard. Some went all over the world. The most common thought is that a bayonet like the M1 could have had many different scabbards during its service. Marv Although is clear would be impossible to know when was the scabbard painted otherwise I think the bayonet itself (for the maker and 1943 year marked) would be it a good starting but do you think the pricing 163 EUR with shipping may be expensive for the US folks collectors...??? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted March 25, 2023 Share #19 Posted March 25, 2023 Fernando, Today, the 163 EUR price is about $175.60. Is that a good price? That's the question. The answer depends on what you want. Your original post says you want to complete a WWII display. The UC M1 is in better condition than the PAL M1 (1943). So the UC would look better in the display. What is more important to you? Would you prefer a good condition M1 bayonet or a rare bayonet that has some small damage to the blade? Both would look good in a display, but the UC would look better. If you really want a PAL 1943, then the price is not too high, since you will not find another one for a while. If it were in mint condition, the price could go as high a $300 or even a little more. Condition is everything when it comes to price. You said that the UC was a little higher in price. I don't know how hard it is to find M1 bayonets in Spain, but you should be able to find a UC or UFH, or one of the other manufacturers in the same condition for $125 to $150. If you can't, then buy the PAL. If you find a nice M1 later, then you might be able to trade for it. As for me, as a bayonet collector, I would buy the PAL. If I simply wanted a display piece to go with some patches, photos, medals etc. the UC, or even a better condition M1 would be my choice. Hope this helps. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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