ardennes44 Posted February 3, 2023 #1 Posted February 3, 2023 Hello folks I would like your opinion on that mk2 . Fuze look like MZ002 ?? and ink stamped on it M10 I believe . I advance thank you
917601 Posted February 4, 2023 #2 Posted February 4, 2023 Very nice correct MK2. The fuze is correct for your grenade. There is an untrue notion the M200 fuze is incorrect, many samples have been found on European battlegrounds. While the M200 is “ officially “ a chem grenade fuze ( they are bent different to fit smoke grenades) many unbent were pressed into service for the common frag, your ink over stamping and unbent appearance illustrates this. That said, according to the experts on the BOCN website, many “MZ00” stamped samples are found exclusively in Europe for some reason. The “ Z” instead of a “2” was presumably a cost saving war time measure ( I forgot the manufacturer’s name who stamped them with a Z instead of a 2). On that note, notice your fuze ( by the cotter key) has a half moon protrusion pin contacting the spoon, that was a later war modification to prevent the spoon from being over squeezed. As your spoon does not have a black paint stripe it indicates that protrusion pin was incorporated at the time of manufacture. So, putting it all together, your grenade ( assuming the fuze / body was never swapped out) is most likely a 1944 factory issued ( all modifications incorporated at the factory) that was a European theatre bring back.
917601 Posted February 4, 2023 #3 Posted February 4, 2023 Also, can you unscrew the fuze and get a picture of the igniter end? It should have a green sealing lacquer at the tip. The M6 fuze ( for a TNT filled grenade) has red color sealant and different appearance. You can search this site for more detailed info.
Dirt Detective Posted February 4, 2023 #6 Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, ardennes44 said: Thanks for that great reply Looks like you may have the M6 Detonating fuze. Check this thread out post #2 and you will see the difference in length of fuze train.
917601 Posted February 5, 2023 #7 Posted February 5, 2023 Looks like it has a visible red sealant, meaning the fuze train ( body) is an M6 detonator…..which means the spoon is not correct for the fuze body. It would need an M6 stamped spoon….but as it isn’t seen when assembled and very few people would know the difference ( even grenade collectors) , I wouldn’t worry a bit.
Inertord Posted February 5, 2023 #8 Posted February 5, 2023 The ink markings on your fuze lever are: M6A4C
917601 Posted February 5, 2023 #9 Posted February 5, 2023 Inertord- good catch. I thought it was an M6 detonator by the red sealant color alone. Careful look at the inking on the spoon clinches it, meaning a late war TNT filled grenade with correct fuze. I can say the late war M6 fuzed grenade is much harder to find than the common M10 series igniter. Next interesting step would be to view the interior, an M10 series was filled with flash powder, easily deactivated by pouring out the powder. The M6 TNT filled was more difficult in inerting as ( to my understanding) the TNT had to be boiled out usually in boiling water?
ardennes44 Posted February 5, 2023 Author #10 Posted February 5, 2023 Thanks for all clarifications, for the story it cames from September 44 mons pocket ( Belgium ) a kid played with it in the street and garden ( empty ) and that kid during the war is just passed away and a friend of mine who found it in the housse, give it to me ;-)
ccyooper Posted February 7, 2023 #11 Posted February 7, 2023 Nice find, with the success of the rifle grenade, ordnance decided they could go back to using TNT as a filler.
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